Talk:Voiced alveolar fricative

Vietnamese Gio
Ashes in Vietnamese is Tro, not Gio.

lhtran —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhtran (talk • contribs) 05:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

The alveolar fricative and the apicoalveolar fricative are two different fricatives. For example, Basque has a laminal fricative and an apicoalveolar fricative. There are several fricatives using the alveolar ridge, but with different parts of the tongue, apex, blade, etc. azalea_pomp

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Alveolar tapped fricative for /r/ in conservative RP
I think it's far more common than a genuine alveolar tap. and (devoiced here) sound to me more genuinely RP than  or, with an actual tap. The amount of friction might not be the greatest, so it might be best described as a somewhat constricted apical alveolar approximant.

It'd be great if we found a source that discusses it... Mr KEBAB (talk) 13:17, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Misquote regarding the Turkish "Rüya"
Under the listing for the "voiced alveolar tapped fricative", under Turkish:

Even though the r in "rüya" seems to be said to be the aforementioned sound, the study cited instead mentions a "voiced fricated alveolar tap".

This is confirmed by both the recording for the "voiced alveolar tapped fricative" differing from what it actually is, and my İstanbul Turkish accent (the de-facto "standard" accent) and that of many others around me.

As I'm not a specialist regarding phonetics, I have refrained from making any edits from the fear I might be mistaken. Please make, or tell me to make appropriate changes if I am not. KaanK06 (talk) 16:02, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I was wrong ignore this KaanK06 (talk) 11:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Possible mistranslation regarding Russian 'заезжать'
Under the listing for the "Dentalized laminal alveolar", under Russian:

The translation for заезжать (zaezžat') is listed as 'to pick up'. The translation for this term is 'to drive into' or 'to stop by'. 2601:600:8F00:C3B:D12C:62C5:C318:7FDB (talk) 02:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)