Talk:Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)/Archive 1

Requested move
Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Verses) → Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) – Add a colon as the album's title also includes it. Should be uncontroversial. --The.Modificator 13:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. —Centrx→talk &bull; 03:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

am i right that this is the only album by them with no swearing? if so shouldnt that be put in?

im going to change it that it has no swearing because ive listened to the album twice today and i did not hear one swear word!!!

My version has a few extras with quicktime for computer.. should put it here?

But is that relevant to the album? Thundermaster367 13:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

No. Thundermaster367 13:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Well then don't include it. Thundermaster367 13:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thundermaster367 13:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Removed unsourced genres.
I just wanted to notify everyone that I removed the genres thrash metal, hardcore metal, and metalcore. These were unsourced, and if anyone wishes to add them back, please identify a reliable source. Thanks! -64.194.36.55 02:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC) (Motleh logged out)


 * Again, someone added several genres that were added with no discussion, sources, verification, etc. I reverted to an older version, please do not change the genres without discussion here. Thanks. -12.165.254.36 20:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thrash is an inluence in Vol 3 Slayer were an influence, so there for Thrash is indeed in genres

No metalcore, nu metal, in genres

Slipknot are Metal, and always have been Metal. Theyve been considered Nu metal, but are in fact Metal

[User:Rakarno]]


 * As I've said previously, metal is an umbrella term for Heavy Metal. Heavy Metal is traditional Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and such, where as early Heavy Metal had a different sound akin to Black Sabbath and Deep Purple. In the 80s and 90s Heavy Metal had an evolved structure that bands like Megadeth and Metallica capitalized on (in the 90s). Heavy Metal as a genre has very strict limitations. Slipknot are most certainly not "Heavy Metal" and if they are indeed "metal" you must specify what genre. As a genre, metal does not exist. Slipknot are numetal, nothing more, nothing less. Also, the thrash influence in Volume 3 is minuscule at best, so no, thrash doesn't go. If you want to put something in or take something out, you need a reliable and verifiable source. - Motley a b c qu 21:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Vol 3- The Subliminal Verses.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Slipknot - Vol. 3- (The Subliminal Verses) Special Edition.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Slipknot - Vol. 3- (The Subliminal Verses).jpg
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Singles template
Can someone please add a singles template to the page? i made one:

although when i try to implement it it doesn't work. I'm having a bad day could someone else put it in? Thanks Riverpeopleinvasion (talk) 23:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Genre changes
I've seen the genre go from nu metal to alternative metal to heavy metal to nu metal, to etc. etc.

I see no grounds (i.e. verification) on which the genre should be anything but nu metal, as is on the profile page and the other two studio albums. If this is contested, discuss it here, but please keep it nu metal until a consensus has been reached on the issue. One was already reached in September, 2007, but it seems no one really bothers to read the discussion page.

Cheers everyone. - Motley a b c qu 01:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC) π₰Å₯  ĬLʡ  $Φǚɭ  ђ&micro;πt₴ŗ   ₯Å₰π 22:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Allmusic has Alternative Metal, Rap-Metal, and Heavy Metal listed. Nu metal is not.  Black  ngold29   17:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heavy metal should be listed aswell.
 * Find a reliable source which states heavy metal as a genre, and I have no problem with it being added.  Black  ngold29   22:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

"UK" Special Edition?
This was mentioned a few times throughout the article. According to the track listing (I removed the UK) it had 8 songs on it. The only reason that I question it is that I own that version of the album, but I bought it in the US, right off the shelf, no special order or anything. Is it possible that it is just the "Special Edition" and not "UK SE"?  Black  ngold29   06:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

2005 Tour Edition
Is the track listing necessary? As it was only avalible to the people who attended the concerts, it obviously wasn't a release on the same scale of the regular and special editions. Is there any opposition to removal? Thanks.  Black  ngold29   20:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, there isn't much point unnessarily cluttering the article, I'll sort it out.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  11:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Slipknot WP Workspace
Well guys, this article has been the Aof for about a day and we already have a strong base for two sections. I'm going to begin collecting info dealing with the music and lyrics, anything that you have can go here. Thanks!  Black  ngold29   23:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I wrote a short section out and added it, but it still needs a good expansion. Any new quotes on the subject are still welcome.  Black  ngold29   04:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The Kerrang and Metal Hammer reviews still need citations. From what I can find, the Metal Hammer review isn't on their site, so we'll have to track down the actual magazine or remove it.  Black  ngold29   02:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Infobox reviews