Talk:Volkswagen Touareg

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One question: In Russia we have 4.2 FSI, but I didn't find any information about it...

Two questions:
 * 1) How is Touareg this actually pronounced?  I've heard it as Toor-egg, Twar-egg, and Twar-ech, where the ch is deep and German.
 * 2) There's conflicting information on the US pages.  Here  we see V6=240hp and here  is V6=240PS.  I suspect the European numbers are correct&mdash;does anyone have numbers that are more official than those released by VW?

--Milkmandan 05:48, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)

Everybody I know pronounces it 'tua-regg'. Bertus 06:57, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

In Germany it sounds like "2-R-Egg" (damn, sounds almost like Toys'R'Us...)

Green score comparison
It will make a lot more sense to compare the score of 9 (very low) to the evarege score, in stead of the best score. This places the score of 9 in much better perspective. Another plus is that the article wont sound like a commercial for Honda. Bertus 06:57, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[added] The pronunciation of Touareg, which is the same as the Tuareg people, is best anglicized as "Twar-egg". The French spelling –Touareg– necessitates that an "ou" be included to facilitate this pronunciation. In French the "ou" followed by another vowel approximates the English "w" and the Arabic "و" (Tuareg is an Arabic word, not a Berber word) e.g. oui, Essaouira, Ouagadougou. Obviously the vehicle inherited the French spelling.

Obviously the name of the car comes from the Tuareg - a nomadic people who travel the Sahara. this car like the Tuareg people you can go across even the Sahara. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.192.250.27 (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

So-called-controversy
Guys. This "Controversy" thing... honestly.. it is a hungarian internal political issue. I am aware that you are not at all aware of what is going on around here in hungary, so this is why I am writing here. I am a liberal man, but this country at the time of the writing(2005) is more or less divided between the right and the left. Both parties have their most faithful "believers" try to emphasise the others' mistake, and this thing about Demszky Gábor is one such case.

I live right here in Budapest, and I must tell you that I haven't even heard about this "scandal". On top of all that, Demszky is amazingly popular in Budapest, and in case he actually looses in the next elections,it will definitely be due to the fact that he once tried to ride two horses at the same time, being mayor of Budapest, and an M.P. in the EU. I cut-paste here the part of the article, if you want to copy it back, then do so.

NOTE: the perso who put this part of the article here is an unknown, hungarian address, 195.70.48.242, so I guess he was totally aware of putting here a POV).

The part of the article follows (ignored wiki formatting):

==Controversy==

Gábor Demszky, the mayor of Budapest, Hungary was the subject of a major public spending scandal, when he ordered the city streets cleaning company to buy a fully equipped Touareg and rent it to him for private use for a nominal fee. This scandal and other integrity problems will likely cost him his long held seat in the 2006 elections.

--Msoos 19:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Why this banner
ApolloBoy added the banner to this page on Dec 24 2005, without any explanation on how or why on the talk page. I don't see any differences or major systemic or otherwise regional bias in this article, compared to many other vehicle and car brand articles.

Please explain your addition, in particular point out where this article is systemically biased, so it can be corrected. If not, I will remove the banner. Mhaesen 13:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems to be written from a UK POV, but that's nothing that can't be fixed; I think I'll go and do it now while it's on my mind... --ApolloBoy 16:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, now it seems very Americanised:
 * Quoting American magazines
 * Using "gasoline", which is the word for petrol that is used locally in the US, seems strange in an article about a car from a European manufacturer.
 * "with none going to the United States"
 * Reference to (ACEEE) about fuel economy.
 * --Boivie 22:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I used gasoline because the term petrol is not used in Germany. Petrol is only used in the Commonwealth countries, which Germany as well as your native Sweden are not part of. If this was an article about a car produced in a Commonwealth country (such as Australia or the UK), I would use petrol instead of gasoline. The third thing you quoted is relevant and does not suggest any "Americanisation" whatsoever. As for the fourth quote, I will convert those MPG figures to km/L figures. Next time, think before you accuse me of "Americanising" things. --ApolloBoy 02:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The term gasoline is not used in the German or the Swedish language either. We say benzin and bensin. I suppose most Germans that study English are learning the international (Commonwealth) version, and not the US version. Anyway, the Manual of Style says: "If an article is predominantly written in one type of English, aim to conform to that type rather than provoking conflict by changing to another." and "If all else fails, consider following the spelling style preferred by the first major contributor (that is, not a stub) to the article.". So I suggest you don't change from Petrol to Gasoline in articles that are not about American cars. --Boivie 10:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but if you were to use the term petrol in an article about a car made in Japan for example, then it would become Commonwealth-centric. The term gasoline is used in Japan, Canada, China, and Spain (even though it's called "gasolina" in Spanish), among some others. I certainly wouldn't use "petrol" in an article about a car made in those countries. As for this article, you may go ahead and use "petrol", now that I've seen your argument. --ApolloBoy 09:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

incorrect: Volkswagen, for instance, entered a modified Touareg in the Paris Dakar.
The Race Touaregs entered in the Paris Dakar Rallys were purpose-built, prototype racecars, not modifed versions of the production Touaregs. They did use in-line 5 cylinder, turbo-diesel engines based on those found in some production Volkswagens but everything else is custom. For more details see: Volkswagen Race-Touareg T2 which raced in Jan 2004 and Volkswagen Race Touareg 2 which raced in Jan 2006. There also used to be a website for the race team at http://www.touareg-dakar.com/. Of course there's always the Wayback Machine

--LM 208.185.78.2 08:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Milage
The metric standard is not km/L like miles/gallon is for the US. It's L/100km (liters per hundred km). Someone have a formula for changing the values?


 * Divide 235.214584 (feel free to round off) by either unknown value; the result will be the value in the other reading. To put it another way, L/100km X mpg = 235.214584. As an example, 20 mpg = 11.76 L/100km, and 20 L/100km = 11.76 mpg

Cleanup of Organization
This article seems a little sloppy in it's organization (and the Environment section has a little POV, but we'll worry about that later). Does anyone more familiar with this article have any suggestions to this following conception of reorganization? The paragraph on the ACEEE scoring, in my opinion, could be removed. The paragraph following it, about diesel engines in general, has no information specific to the Touareg and should be removed.
 * Brief Summary - no current summary exists; most of the information is before the first section break
 * Name and Pronounciation - explains what the name means and how to pronounce it
 * History - going over co-development with Porsche, vehicles in the line up it replaced, etc.
 * Performance - list of engine options, speed and engine statistics, suspension, fuel efficiency
 * Achievements - awards from magazines, racing victories, and public reactions

Also, we can list the car's stats in both standard and metric units. The editing back and forth between the two is silly.

I haven't made any of these changes yet. Any thoughts? ~ Riobranden 11:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Touareg's predecessor???
What on earth has someone been thinking? The Touareg was VW's first SUV, so it doesn't have a predecessor, especially a VAN? Unless there is some kind of a predecessor for this vehicle, i'll remove that false van entry. --DifiCa 18:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

The article says the Touareg is the second SUV, but it does not count the Syncro, please see the link http://www.syncro.org/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.185.165 (talk) 11:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

SUV Names, it's hard to hide the dark side.
It seems the auto makers tend to name their most environmentally offensive products after the very things they tend to ruin. In VW's case, the Taureg tribe is changing their rugged lifestyle from nomads to farmers ar the climate change has put them in drought conditions unsuitable for their livestock. I'm sure there are other examples of climate change effecting the Yukon, Denali, or Sequoia forrests. I heard at one point Hummer was to offer the H3 in a color caller "Glacier Blue"! We are silly, and so slow to wake up. --Mauka1 08:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * DAMN! That is DEEP! Rock on man! 24.91.21.192 (talk) 04:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

VW Toureg (sic)
I have driven 6 VW Touregs (I'm sick of it being misprounced...it's Twaregg---phonetic) since I worked in a VW dealership in my city. The V-10 Diesel is an awesome powerplant for this vehicle. It's a pain in the butt to wash but there is so much sophication built into it that it can't be dismissed. There is so much torque in that engine, it's a great thing. I can only hope that the CA Air Resources Board can see this, but I doubt they ever will. I am in California, I got to drive those V-10 Diesels, but they all had out of state license plates. Diesel cars are taboo in California. The emissions are lower, but we have such a chokehold on the petrolium business it would never work... at least not yet. I've also taken a V-6 out on the road and it's just not even close.

Satyr30 19:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)JMG

Wrong Image
Shouldn't the main image really be the new shape (2007) Touareg, because the current image is of the old shape Touareg. //\\ AirbusA346 //\\ 16:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Drive-by-wire?
I've heard rumours that the Touareg is drive-by-wire - or was that only the 04-05 model? I think this is very significant if true. Still it's an abominable vehicle - the off-road capabilities are irrelevant for 98% of its drivers, who'll never leave the tarmac, and should be driving the functionally-identical Sharan and burning much less fuel. 138.38.72.177 (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Header size
Why is the "V10 TDI Criticism" header in tiny font? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.229.254.163 (talk) 15:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Race Touareg is a completely different car
and should be treated in a separate article, like in the German language wikipedia article on the Race Touareg. That both cars carry the same name is due to marketing ... the Race Touareg should help sell the normal Touareg. --L.Willms (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Like this:
 * Volkswagen Race Touareg is a Sports prototype car purpose-built for Rally raid competitions such as the Dakar rally. While bearing the same name and sharing a few design features, it is a technically different construction from the street-legal, mass-produced Volkswagen Touareg crossover SUV.
 * --L.Willms (talk) 02:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Given the small section on the sports version of the Touareg and that the whole article is not so large to require splitting, I don't think a split is required at the moment. Op47 (talk) 23:43, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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