Talk:Volunteers for Israel

Nice copy of my article on Sar-El. Feel free to integrate the new informations into the elder article, but don´t forget, that Israel´s security is not just an American hobby ;-)--Feliks 07:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * They should not be consolidated.

Sar-El (non-profit corp. in Israel) and Volunteers for Israel (non-profit corp. in U.S.) are separate legal organizations in different countries. Neither organization controls the other, and independence is guaranteed by each having its own leaders and Board of Directors. They may have some overlapping goals and interests, but operate automomously. Therefor, they should not be consolidated.


 * Please sign Your edits (above the second button from right). Your article was started as copy/paste creation from Sar-El. To merge it was an offer, the other option was to delete this article.--Feliks 18:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The other option is that it remains as a separate article. -- JJay 10:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * "some overlapping goals and interests" is some kind of understatement. Please mention just one essential difference between goals and interests of Sar-El and VFI. Sar-El is the whole, VFI is the part. The structure of the VFI article shows no encyclopedic relevance in relation to the Sar-El article. And please, there is really no need for contact phone numbers: If there is anybody, who wants to join Sar-El and is not able to follow the weblinks, than he maybe helps Israel more by volunteering for Hamas ;-)--Feliks 22:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * They operate in different countries so it's not the same thing. See the boy scouts where we have 175 articles on the various groups at Category:WOSM member organization. -- JJay 22:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * They operate in just one country - and that is their only reason to exist. VFI would not exist without Sar-El. So far about "independent". Without the unnecassary phone numbers, the articles are identical in over 80%. Give VFI a chapter in Sar El and consolidate the articles. Sar El is a family all over the world. We are no VFI activists, Americans, christians, Frenchmen, atheists, Germans, Jews or Russians, we are reliable friends of the Israeli people, serving for one goal: peace and security for Israel. So one article will be enough. --Feliks 23:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, information about VFI and Sar-el organizations operating in countries around the world should be in the Sar-el article and not separate articles. However, there should be a redirect if someone does search for VFI or Volunteers for Israel.


 * Also, I changed the category to "Organizations based in the United States." As the article itself says in its third sentence. 167.153.5.196 (talk) 18:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * They don't seem to operate in the same country to me. Also I don't know what you mean by "we". If you are part of this group maybe you should not be editing the article. The same goes for referring to the other article as your article. -- JJay 01:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)