Talk:Vova and Olga Galchenko

NPOV
Is this an encyclopaedia entry or a press release? 80.177.206.19
 * Can you help edit the article? --Viriditas | Talk 01:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure, I did a bit better and completely re-wrote it from scratch.

Just a side note: I was the original writer of this article, and I the time I thought I was doing fairly well. However, it was one of my first Wiki-articles, and looking back on it now, it does seem fairly biased. Can someone help clean it up? --TheSwami 11:48, 20 July 2005 (PST)

It mentions that vova is good at 3 club combat. What is that? BTW i think its a very good article ,granted there is a slight bias but their juggling records and tournement wins prove their skills.

First time wiki-poster but long time juggler (workshop teacher, performer, IJA member, etc) and you might want to substantiate the claim that people think Vova is secondary only to Anthony Gatto as a club juggler, equally the influence that the two have had on young jugglers and their progress seems highly speculative given that they are only two of numerous technically and creatively gifted jugglers who have made material available through the web. I think the article is very complete, but drifts into claims that aren't referenced and that may not be widely agreed upon by other jugglers.

combat is a game played commonly with 3 clubs. Many players attend in each game. the jugglers all start to juggle at once, the object is to throw one of your own clubs high into the air, and with one of your remaining clubs, hit another players clubs so that they drop. If a player drops a club while playing they are out. The last player standing is the winner. You must continue your three club pattern to remain in the game. I hope this helps people understand what compbat is.
 * combat*****

Possible Copyright Violation
A large part of this article added 21st of July 2005 appears to be identical to http://www.galchenko.com/about/ indicating a possible copyright violation --Sully 13:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article.-- Jreferee 20:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Skill and influence section
I removed this entire section, as it appears to be POV discussion without any proper sourcing. The text is below in case someone thinks there is something here to salvage. Notmyrealname 16:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Vova and Olga could be considered child prodigies. With the combined age of just 26 they broke their first juggling world record. Over the next few years they broke the 9, 10, 11 and 12 club passing endurance records. They regularly perform club passing routines that are more demanding than any performed by any team in the past. In practice they manage tricks that were commonly thought impossible just a few years ago.

Individually, Olga is one of the most proficient female club jugglers at the moment, despite the fact she is still in her teens. Olga is also considered very good at 3 Club Combat. Vova is constantly improving his club juggling skills and is now one of the most technically competent jugglers in the world. With clubs, many jugglers think he is only second in the world to Anthony Gatto, though at technical 5 club juggling he is arguably better.

Due to their young age, remarkable skill and high exposure at juggling events and online, the Galchenkos showed that anyone of any age can become a very good juggler in a relatively short time. For new jugglers in isolated locations, the edited highlights of Vova and Olga's skill was their main or only influence, via the video files on the Galchenko website. Their father has chronicled their juggling from the early stages of learning elementary juggling feats, through childhood and into their adult years. Though Olga has at least temporarily chosen an academic life over juggling, the extensive archive of video materials available via the internet -- of both Olga and Vova -- will allow them to be a major influence on jugglers both young and old for years to come.

Don't change their name please
Kolindigo don't change their name: that's the correct transcription! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haex (talk • contribs) 21:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, but is the form they use commonly? See Naming conventions (common names). Kolindigo (talk) 22:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No it's not, but for that problem there are the wiki redirects! This juggler needs an "official" page which will be "Vova Galchenko" because it's the most common (but lazy) transcription, and a redirect page with the correct name. But in the text is important to use the correct name, like in all wiki pages! Haex (talk) 19:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I still can't add the redirect page, but I will when I'll can... Haex (talk) 19:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the most important thing is to use the names they commonly use. The transliterations that the Galchenkos use are Vova and Olga in their professional names. Furthermore, by replacing-all, you are breaking several links. If you would like to add the Cyrillic alphabet spelling of their places, please add (their Russian names) in the lead (for an example, see Vladimir Putin). Otherwise, please stop making these changes. Kolindigo (talk) 22:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a commercial site... You can add the wrong transcription, but don't use it as the standard! Haex (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * But it's not "the wrong transcription". It's the transcription they use, and so it is the correct transcription. Please stop making these spelling changes unless you can cite a source that the Galchenkos have changed their preferred English spelling. Kolindigo (talk) 21:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I added the redirects. Just so there is a mention of the two options in this discussion, they are "Galchenko" and "Galʹčenko". Hyacinth (talk) 23:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

7 club 7 up 360
In the first paragraph of "biography" there is the line: Vova Galchenko is one of two jugglers that have successfully executed a 7 club 7 up 360.[clarification needed]

I can clarify what this is: in a juggling pattern with 7 clubs (7 club) 7 of these are thrown higher (7 up) so that the juggler can make a full pirouette underneath them (360). This is a harder trick than for example a 7 club 5 up 360 where the juggler keeps 2 clubs in his hands during the pirouette. I don't know how this should be put in the article, or if this line should be there at that place at all. It is quite an accomplishment and says something about Vova's technical skill level, but it is not a standardised record or something alike. Any juggler could make up a new trick and have in his bio 'the only person to ever do ...'. 7 club 7 up 360 is hard though.. reaally hard... --Hapiel (talk) 21:10, 17 August 2014 (UTC)