Talk:Vuelve (album)

chart's

 * number one 43 week | Latin Pop Albums |
 * number one 26 week | Top Latin Albums |

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: No Consensus to move; not moved. Even after listing only one other editor participated. The evidence that the album is the primary topic is not substantiated. B2C 05:45, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

– Back in 2009 User:Renné move this album page from Vuelve to Vuelve (album) with no edit summary. Generally it is correct if there is a valid reason, like a dab page, but it was not the case. Vuelve redirected to Vuelve (album) until Max24 created a dab page with two links (WP:TWODABS), one about the album and one about the song from this album. Today I added two other songs with no article (WP:NSONGS). This album seems to be the primary topic, in English, of the Spanish word "Vuelve" (translated as "[You] come back"). Relisted. Favonian (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2013 (UTC). Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  01:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Vuelve (album) → Vuelve
 * Vuelve → Vuelve (disambiguation)
 * Comment - Google Books doesn't support that there is a WP:primarytopic, there often isn't: "If there is no primary topic, the term should be the title of a disambiguation page". Vuelve (album) and Vuelve (song) together would be, but share it out between them and neither is primary. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:41, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you give links? Also, someone one day said "Google doesn't prove notability", why Google is wrong when it is convenient, and is correct when it is convenient? Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  02:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * How can one link, the only way is to stroll through the book links and see where it means the album, where the single... In ictu oculi (talk)
 * What I meant is that I live in a Spanish speaking country, and "Vuelve" is a verb (You come back in English), GBooks will give me a lot of books with its title including the word "Vuelve": Por favor, vuelve a casa, Vuelve, maestro..., etc., but this is not Spanish Wikipedia, "Vuelve" is not common in the English world. If I search "Vuelve Ricky Martin" I get multiple Billboard links most of them talking about the album, which is obvious if we consider this v. this. This album became famous because of the successful The Cup of Life. That's why I don't know what are you talking about. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  01:12, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant GB for "Vuelve + Ricky Martin", it isn't clear the album is more notable than the song. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose - a second look at GB for "Vuelve + Ricky Martin" confirms first impressions. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

8 million copies sold ???
"Vuelve" is a full-length spanish album, during the latin explosion (1998-2001), some artists achieved success outside Latin America and became well-known acts around the world like Ricky Martin, Shakira and Enrique Iglesias, the case here is that "Vuelve" is a spanish album and no matter how succesful an album was in that language, an album in that language wouldn't sell more than 5-6 million copies at the most, the album has sold 900,000 in the US basically and between 200-500K in some countries, 4-5 million copies sold sound reasonable, but 8 million copies is a ridiculous amount to believe, there's no way the album sold that much, the only page as a source that says that is a polish biography of Ricky, that same biography states that "Vuelve" sold as much copies as "Sound Loaded" (His 2nd english studio album), 8 million both albums, so, according to the source, "Vuelve" (a spanish album) sold as much copies as his second english studio album released when he was already a worldwide super star. Alberto279 (talk) 23:25, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * find a reliable source and include the 4/5 millions record sold here.--88marcus (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * believe me, i have tried but what i am saying is pure math, there's no way a full spanish album could sell 8 million copies worldwide, in that case, "Vuelve" would be the best selling latin album of all times, besides the source that states that the album sold that is not a music chart, magazine or any data related to album sales, is a biography that could have been written by anyone, it's better to just remove the 8 million number with the source and leave alone the certifications.
 * I agree with you. I found a reliable source that says the album sold 6 million copies. It's included in the article now.--88marcus (talk) 00:11, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * that's excellent, we should always keep wikipedia as rel and accurate as possible, 8 million for a spanish album is an insane number, did you add the source in the discography page too?
 * yes! ;)--88marcus (talk) 17:09, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Reference cleanup needed
Erick, you have requested a GOCE copy edit for this article. Can you or someone else please clean up the reference errors before that copy edit happens? I see errors at references 8, 13, 16, 42, 74, 75, 78, 107 (typo), 117, 119. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * (fixing ping). – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:19, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Sorry for the wait, I have fixed the references. Erick (talk) 02:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Much improved. We'll get to your copy edit request soon(ish). – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)