Talk:Vulcan Raven

Article listed on Votes for deletion June 15 to June 30 2004, consensus was not reached. Discussion:


 * Reads like a copyvio, though I can't find from where, makes no mention of what universe this apparently fictional character comes from, nonsense. RickK 23:50, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * I think it's from a game series called Metal Gear Solid. Joyous 00:15, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, it definitely is, and it does say, but only as a note at the end. I added a note at the beginning though, but I'm not sure if it should be deleted, unless we can find that it's a copyvio. perhaps they just traced the backstory through the game? - Xgkkp 00:20, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * No vote (do we keep articles on Playstation characters? I honestly don't know), just a comment on the copy.  It is highly unlikely this was copied from the web.  I used Dogpile's advanced search, trying all sorts of combinations, and came up empty.  It looks like it may have been paraphrased from multiple sources.  One thing makes me wonder -- the unnecessary capitalization of "Mercenary" makes it look like it may have been copied from in-game messages.  I have no way to check.  Anyone?  SWAdair | Talk  07:42, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * we keep articles on other fictional characters, and as games go it's a pretty big series. I think probably the original might have been copied from one of those "solutions" books that get sold alongside every major game nowadays. Now however, it looks more like a proper article. - Xgkkp 21:35, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * The original stank of copyvio to high heaven, but I couldn't find it online either. Keep excellent new article. - Lucky 6.9 01:09, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * not a copyvio. I wrote it out. AmericanRobot 21:37, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt that. Of course I have NO proof, but I believe on intuition that no one would object when I call you a liar and plagarizer. And please use the discussion link next time.  IF I was wrong, then PROVE it.  I will only apologize when you PROVE that is not a copyvio.  Cody The Blue Bomber 21:50, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

ill do as I please.


 * Well how about you PROVE that it is. No one else can PROVE that, because it cannot be PROVEd. Silly old cody the blue bomber AmericanRobot 22:06, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * That doesn't change the fact that you're a liar and no one has objected to it. Cody The Blue Bomber 22:11, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I object! AmericanRobot 22:13, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * You're the only one who objects. How pathetic.  If there is a consensus among Wikipedians that I was wrong to imply that you were a liar and plagarizer based on a strong intuition, then I will apologize.  Otherwise, you are are a liar and plagarizer. Cody The Blue Bomber 22:18, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I object. Please do not bite the newcomers. If you suspect that an article is a copyright violation, but cannot find a source for it yourself, it is appropriate to say "hey, I think this might be a copyright violation", and ask if anyone else has any info. I don't think it's appropriate to call someone "a liar and plagarizer" just because you don't think the article looks like their original work. &mdash;Stormie 11:22, Jun 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * Two comments here:
 * Please add comments to the discussion page (click 'discussion' at the top and edit there).
 * There's no need to SHOUT at people and throw insults around, and doing so doesn't help put one's point of view across. Let's try to keep the discussion civil.
 * &mdash; Lady Lysine Ikinsile 22:57, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)


 * My lord... I feel so childish... Thank you for your wise words Lady Lysine. Hopefully I can put The blue bombers hurtful words behind me. AmericanRobot 02:04, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * No need to feel childish, since that article is obviously a copyvio, in my opinion. Also, in my opinion it is better to bite a newcomer rather than having Wikipedia sued for copyright infringement. Cody The Blue Bomber 02:21, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: useless pseudoinformation. Wile E. Heresiarch 21:33, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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