Talk:Vyond/Archive 2

Notability
Can anyone find better sources than the one-two mentions in Washington Post? Did the company receive in-depth coverage anywhere else? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:45, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2015
Alvin Hung has been receiving death threats after the unveiling of HTML5 and the removal of social features.

IAmaCommentator (talk) 21:36, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 21:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Images "not approved by site"
Several images were removed from article with the explanation that they were "not approved by site". Does this mean that an editor from GoAnimate is attempting to control content of this page? If so, that is contrary to Wikipedia policy. If an explanation isn't forthcoming, I'll add the images back in. Deli nk (talk) 12:33, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and did it for you. This specific subject (GoAnimate) is susceptible to all sorts of misinformation and nonsense by kids that are heavy into children's television. The reason why is that, as Wikipedia says, it is targeted towards business people, "designed to allow business people with no background in animation to quickly and easily create animated videos", but the audience it actually has is... astonishing. Just take a look. Even add "grounded", "dead meat", "held back", "nappies", the list goes on, to the search bar. That's why I feel as though this page should be indefinitely semi-protected, but there's unfortunately no reason for that as things stand. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 19:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Heck, today, an IP tried restoring a revision they deliberately preferred that was baseless (speculating the site would move to HTML5 with no proof) and had insignificant details (such as the Facebook login button being removed) that did not benefit the article, and it was also 4 months outdated. :/ Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 19:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2016
This page needs to be semi-protected because of vandalism. Users are supposed to edit unless they create an account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.65.119 (talk) 22:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If you would like to make a request for page protection, WP:RFPP is where you should go, not here. JudgeRM  19:21, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * What am I supposed to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.65.119 (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Grounded videos - explanation about Alvin Hung and the editing changes
GoAnimate can be a matter of subjects of controversies, example, grounded videos were made almost six years if you wanna look at the grounded videos. I think what's kinda suspicious is that every single one of them keeps editing the page saying that "Alvin Hung must die", or "GROUNDED" with around 1000+ repeated lines, or simply defunct in 2017. Alvin Hung kinda received a ton of death threats by many other users and gets blamed. Look up grounded videos. It'll explain why GoAnimate had some hypothesis about these videos for further investigation.

Kade Klodt (talk) 05:50, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2017
172.56.34.115 (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)Grounded videos on GoAnimate were made since 2011
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  JTP (talk • contribs) 20:33, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2017
Can you request speedy G3 99.109.85.105 (talk) 04:33, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, it would be a little silly to do that based on the definition of that criterion. There is nothing pure or blatant about the entry. EricEnfermero (Talk) 07:17, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2017
76.209.127.17 (talk) 22:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Murph 9000 (talk) 23:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2018
191.114.11.49 (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sak ura Cart elet Talk 23:50, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2018
GoAnimate just released its new video maker that features faster loading and an enhanced UI. The new video maker includes a streamlined layout, a redesigned timeline, and the "Contemporary Style." This update also features an enhanced right-click menu, quick access folders, and sharing features. More information: http://go.goanimate.com/New-Videomaker-Resource-Center.html

I believe this is a significant change to the application that should be reflected in this article. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zac Romick (talk • contribs) 16:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2018
GoAnimate Has Had A YouTube Following Since At Least 2013 With Grounded Videos. So Can Someone Please Make A Section About These Or Mention It Somewhere In The Page? 207.172.180.75 (talk) 05:18, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Do you have any sources that say "groundin videos" are an important aspect of GoAnimate? Trivialist (talk) 05:35, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2018
I would like the 2007-2013 logo of Vyond, then called Go!Animate, to be added into the article because the page needs to complete the addition of the two former logos used for Vyond (Formerly known as Go!Animate and GoAnimate). Andyisepic (talk) 20:13, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Your request consists only of a vague request to add, update, modify, or improve an image, or is a request to include an image that is hosted on an external site. If you want an image changed, you must identify a specific image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. Please note that any image used on any Wikipedia article must comply with the Wikipedia image use policy, particularly where copyright is concerned. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 20:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2018
I think some how Grounded videos have been ended December 31, 2018 and they get banned from Vyond.
 * Padlock-silver-open.svg Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Danski454 (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

what do you mean not done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:182:300:6B7D:7965:41C6:17D6:BF51 (talk) 19:16, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Article written like an advert
I've seen the template message that the article contains content that normally comes from adverts. I need to improve the article by removing promotional content, but I don't know which parts are written like an advert, news article or press release. (User talk: 86.24.64.45) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.64.45 (talk) 16:42, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Grounded video additions
There have been repeated attempts to add material on the "grounded' videos here, but there has been no good reliable sourcing showing that it is a significant aspect of the service. Please do not readd until either you have such a source. --Nat Gertler (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Grounded Videos will end on December 2019. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.36.32 (talk) 21:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, a good "section" explaining grounded videos is on the article, i guess we finally have that section after years. --66.131.43.71 (talk) 18:05, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Is Vyond shutting down?
The two above discussions are claiming two separate things, and I do not know which to believe. Can someone find a source for this? RteeeeKed (talk) 01:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This page has been subject to a number of hoax attempts. The person you see claiming a shutdown above is the same person I was responding to earlier. They provided zero source for the claim... or for any claim they've ever made in their few edits on Wikipedia. There's no reason to believe what they've posted. You can check Vyond's own blog and see no such announcement there, just business as usual. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but maybe you should've made your discussion below the one that is directly above it. RteeeeKed (talk) 02:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Vyond Shutdown
On June 1, 2020, Vyond announced that it's going to shutdown due to the end-of-life of Adobe Flash. It was planned to be retired on December 31, 2020, so everything associated with Vyond along with this website will be gone for good. That means within the next year, no one can go to Vyond and make animations. No videos, no characters, no text, nothing. We're really going to miss Vyond so much... We won't forget this website and I bet this is the best... After all the memories we have, it was great, but we're sad to see him go. THIS IS NOT A HOAX, THIS IS ACTUALLY REAL — Preceding unsigned comment added by PGGF5000 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I think Vyond uses HTML5 now. Why would they shut down? RteeeeKed (talk) 01:38, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: The user claiming the shutdown has been blocked for vandalizing other pages (notably claiming a made up fixed end date to the current pandemic), so y'all can feel free to ignore what he was claiming here. --Nat Gertler (talk) 00:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've checked Vyond's website and I haven't saw any banner that said it was going to shutdown because of the end of Flash, Vyond was futureproofing around 5 years ago (although with the side-effects of death threats from kids). --Chazpelo (talk) 23:11, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Vyond's most earliest name.
Forgive me if I get this wrong, but, there was one of the earliest names for GoAnimate, it has been already explained on YouTube, but it's establishment was on August 30, 2006, it did not become GoAnimate up until later in 2007. The earlier name was AniFire.

Kade Klodt (talk) 13:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Source? RThreeKed (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The user seems to be referring to a video named "GoAnimate's Beta Server Found! It's called... WHAT?!", however, this is the only video talking about the so-called "AniFire" thing, and it was made by a random GoAnimater. I don't believe in this AniFire thing. --Chazpelo (talk) 23:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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example shows
An IP editor has been repeatedly replacing the names of the examples of things Grounded videos are based on. All of the changes have been without source, and in some cases they have replaced the names of shows with the names of characters from the same show. Their work has been reverted by multiple editors, so there's clearly not consensus. These changes should not continue without reaching some consensus here on the talk page. --Nat Gertler (talk) 18:38, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

To what I observe, most of the Grounded videos are basically children's TV shows that are aimed mainly at children 2-6. Arthur doesn't really count too much as babyish, since it may be more comedic and most children like that show. But still, I've been hearing characters being "grounded" for (whatever number mostly spitting out random digits) years.Allan Bao (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh yes, I feel like 3 examples are more notable since these three shows, Caillou, Dora, and Little Bill, are the most common. But Arthur doesn’t really count since this goes with children’s shows that are explicitly aimed mainly preschoolers.68.197.54.51 (talk) 11:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2022
I have noticed some unsourced material on this page that may need removing. 1.157.10.249 (talk) 00:27, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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Grounded videos
Honestly, I don't think we should be adding the grounded videos section back at all. That section barley says anything about Vyond. All it says are about how this grounding works and how long it is, punishment's, and crying and screaming. Also, some IP users have added it back without even adding a source. The only where it says things related to Vyond is the 1st line and the bottom line. So, it shouldn't be added back, as it barley says anything about Vyond and no sources are being re-added for it. 🍓⋆JennilyW♡🍧 (talk) 21:55, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I'm just going to add it back with sources and remove the off topic stuff. 🍓⋆JennilyW♡🍧 (talk) 21:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Actually, ignore my comment above of this one. I realized that the Ground Videos wont get re-added since there off topic and no sources are being added for it. 🍓⋆JennilyW♡🍧 (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I have added it back in its form that it had one year ago, when it did have a source. It may need paring back down to the material covered in the source, but the coverage looks sufficient for inclusion, and geek.com is a source that has been relied on elsewhere and survived the one time that concern was raised about it at WP:RSN. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:01, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I should note a very odd little conflict of interest here. Only after I reposted it did I realize that the article used as reference was written by K. Thor Jensen, with whom I have a slight business relationship: I have paid him royalties on a comics story reprinted in an anthology I published about 17 years back. I wasn't the one to introduce this source, merely to restore it, but in the interest of utter transparency, I thought I ought to note it. (The world is strange and small.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 00:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

As an uninvolved editor, I am unfortunately minded to recommend the removal of the grounded videos section at this time, due to the whole thing depending on one Internet Gutter post, amid a lack of significant coverage. Running the search term "goanimate/vyond" "grounded/grounding" -site:fandom.com -site:youtube.com" in DuckDuckGo returned nothing of use, in my opinion, to establish notability. In Talk:Techmoan, I had to advise that there needed to be more third party sources for it to withstand article deletion attempts. -- Minoa (talk) 08:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I removed it. 🦁⋆JennilyW♡🦌 (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

You see JennilyW, Vyond grounded videos are something Vyond is largely known for, it just wouldn’t make sense if we didn’t have a grounded videos section. Jurrasic kid (talk) 07:41, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Fine, then, prove it with some reliable sources. Trivialist (talk) 01:54, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Am I allowed to cite youtube videos? Jurrasic kid (talk) 03:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Only if they are published by reliable sources, but text sources are preferred. Trivialist (talk) 09:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2022
Can you add "for many people" at the end of this sentence saying creation platform. 204.129.232.191 (talk) 15:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. That doesn't look to be an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

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"Grounded videos" section
Should we put an edit filter in place (targeted at the Vyond page) to aid in preventing users from disruptively adding back the "Grounded videos" section over the objection of the discussion? AKK 700  19:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2022
2001:8003:1D84:B00:6132:C6BB:FE34:95E5 (talk) 02:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC) Can you remove the internet memes category, nothing on the page talks about Vyond being an internet meme.
 * ✅ Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  02:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2022
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Company founding date
There has been a recent edit war over the inclusion of a comapny founding date in the infobox. Given that no source has been put forth to support the month and day, I suggest we remove it until such a source is found. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:08, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2023
Tristan2001 (talk) 01:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * the article is already semi-protected LeronJomes (talk) 17:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2023
180.75.46.145 (talk) 07:18, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The request is empty, can you tell us what you want changed in the article? However, we cannot include Vyond-generated videos involving child discipline because they are not notable: the Internet Gutter post does not count. -- Minoa (talk) 10:15, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Potenial source for grounded videos
https://www.sinarharian.com.my/article/68386/BERITA/Nasional/Remaja-istimewa-mampu-hasilkan-video-dengan-Goanimate, this article is in Malaysian, but I have google translated it. Here is the translated article. Translated article deleted for WP:COPYVIO concerns. - Named Fireman Sam Fanboy (talk) 00:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It's difficult so see how this could be used as a source. It provides no details about the videos and does not discuss them as a group or as a meme. MrOllie (talk) 00:38, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I've just deleted the translated article, as having a complete article here would be a fairly large violation of copyright. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 03:13, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * agreed, and I don't want to be the reason Wikipedia gets sued Fireman Sam Fanboy (talk) 03:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

About the Product section
I have noticed that the first 2 paragraphs of the Product section are completely unsourced, what should we do about this since those paragraphs contain major information about Vyond. Fireman Sam Fanboy (talk) 11:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)