Talk:Wōdejebato

Source question
I wonder if https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/0260h/report.pdf is an useful source for foraminifera of Wodejebato. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Citation sorting errors
Um,, it looks like your edit has created a pile of sorting errors in the "sources" section. I'll probably fix them myself but figured you wanted to know. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Explain what you mean by "sorting errors". If you mean the  templates that follow Haggerty et al, that is how I think they should be listed because they are all chapters of Northwest Pacific Atolls and Guyots and all link to that base citation template through their Haggerty et al. (1995) links.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah. User:Lingzhi/reviewsourcecheck.js seems to be thinking that it is mis-sorted. Perhaps a bug? Pinging for this. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:34, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Pre-FAC comments
Adding comments here, per a request on my talk page for a pre-FAC review. -- More later. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:53, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The map would benefit from an inset showing the location in a wider map -- either something like the globe view in the infobox in Marshall Islands, or an inset of some kinds such as is done in Liechtenstein.
 * I thought so as well but there apparently isn't any particularly good way to make such a map.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The carbonate platform drowned during the Maastrichtian: this is actually the second carbonate platform mentioned, so just saying "the" is confusing. Perhaps "This second carbonate platform"?
 * The macron on the first "o" in the name presumably indicates a particular pronunciation; could we give it in standard IPA?
 * No idea how to make that, sorry. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't the article start with "(formerly known as Sylvania)" rather than "or Sylvania" given that "Sylvania" appears to be no longer a current name?
 * and may be a spit formed by reworked material: I don't know what "reworked material" means. Is there an explanatory link?
 * Huh. I thought that "rework" was a common name for when some material or item is reprocessed and assumes a new form in the process.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Small mounds of presumably biological origin are found at the margins of the seamount: suggest "thought to be of biological origin" -- "presumably" implies the reader will understand the implication. It might be worth adding the reasoning in the source, if it's interesting.
 * These ridges appear to be rift zones: does "these ridges" refer to the spurs, or to the surface features of the spurs?
 * free air gravity anomaly: a gravity anomaly is a simple enough concept that a link suffices, but "free air gravity anomaly" isn't a term most readers will know. After looking at the gravity anomaly article, I think we can cut "free air" as it doesn't seem to add much information.  There's an article specifically on free-air gravity anomaly, and we could link to that, but I'm not sure it's worth it.
 * Eh, better link is better. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * OK on all the above, though I wouldn't be surprised if others request a better map. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:49, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:49, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The seafloor beneath Wōdejebato that was formed during the Jurassic Quiet Zone over 156.9 million years ago: something wrong; perhaps "that" just needs to be deleted?
 * the possibility that hotspot volcanism is affected by contemporaneous lithospheric extension: what is "lithospheric extension"?
 * Isotope ratios shown affinities to these of volcanic rocks: I think this should be "Isotope ratios show affinities to those of volcanic rocks".
 * from the Macdonald hotspot, the Rurutu hotspot, as well as the Rarotonga hotspot and the Society hotspot: either make it "from the Macdonald hotspot and the Rurutu hotspot", or cut the "as well as".
 * These are flat-topped submarine mountains[35] which are characterized by steep slopes, a flat top: we don't need both mentions of the flat tops; I'd suggest eliminating the first.
 * 22.5–5 metres (74–16 ft): suggest reversing the range.
 * Limestones and platform like carbonates accumulated on Wōdejebato: I suspect this should be "platform-like", though if so I don't know what a platform-like carbonate is. If this is what is explained by the following sentences, then I'd make it "Compositionally, these carbonates consist of...".
 * the redeposition followed by stabilization of eroded material had a role in the development of the surrounding rim: not easy to parse. I think there should be parenthetical commas around "followed by stabilization of eroded material, assuming that "redeposition" is the subject of "had".
 * Optional, but speaking as someone to whom "Albian", "Campanian", and "Maastrichtian" convey nothing unless I click through, a graphical timeline with the axis showing the named ages (or chrons, or both) and the data showing the likely timing of the given events would be useful.
 * What is "meteoric water erosion"? The link doesn't tell me.
 * Any reason why the list of rudist taxa is given as a bullet list instead of inline? There are only five, without associated commentary.  It's OK as a bullet list but I think would look a little more natural inline.
 * I got these issues. Turns out there is a good "cretaceous timeline" template. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * All looks good; I made one more tweak. I think this is good to go. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 10:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. As as sidenote, I've applied some of the fixes here to Limalok as well since that may be the next-next item on my to FAC list. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:47, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

"metres" or "m"
I think the article could write "m" not "metres". Add on to all Convert? - -DePiep (talk) 00:07, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * See test edit now reverted. -DePiep (talk) 02:12, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * No skin off my back either way. I don't think too many people will not understand that "m" stands for "metre". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:42, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Southeast?
On Google Maps, and possibly also in the lead map of the article, Bikini Atoll appears to lie to the southeast rather than the northwest. Not sure about this, so I didn't change it in the article, but I removed "northwest" from the TFA blurb. - Dank (push to talk) 16:33, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Mended both here and in the TFA blurb. Seems like I mentally flipped them around. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I suppose the name is from Marshallese. Does anyone involved in bringing this article to featured status know how it is pronounced? Ideal would be an IPA transcription of the Marshallese but that will require someone familiar with the phonology of the language. A very good alternative would be the approximate Anglicized pronunciation normally used by English speakers talking about this place. I searched for Wōdejebato and Wodejebato on YouTube and found nothing, so this would either need someone to record an audio clip, or to use Help:IPA/English to transcribe if confident in doing so, or link here to some other recording that can be the basis of an IPA transcription. Beorhtwulf (talk) 23:24, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately no. The source that gives the etymology does not explain the pronunciation in detail other than specifying that it is spelled "Wōdejebato" and not "Wodejebato". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Size of Pikinni vs. size of Wōdejebato
This edit by while a little misplaced makes a fair point; while the sources say that Wōdejebato is the larger/has the larger summit platform of the two, it's hardly obvious from the maps. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)