Talk:WABQ

Lead
The category Category:Radio stations in Cleveland, Ohio is present within the article. The station is licensed to Painesville, Ohio, a Cleveland suburb. The station broadcasts to eastern parts of Greater Cleveland, the metropolitan area which Cleveland anchors. There is no need to specify in the lead that WABQ lies within the Cleveland radio market; saying so is not only redundant, but would also confuse readers by implying WABQ program affiliations serve the market as a whole (which they don't). Levdr1 lp ( talk ) 18:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

The vs A
Lableling WABQ as the local affiliate for Stephanie Miller, etc, rather than a local affiliate is correct for two reasons.

1. WABQ is the only station in the Cleveland market carrying the liberal talk format and carrying these shows...whether or not ABQ covers the whole market is irrelevant.

2. For grammarical purposes... "a local..." implies there's more than one, while "the local..." means, they're the only one. Words mean things.

Vjmlhds 03:59, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * "The" specifies; "a"/"an" generalizes. "The local affiliate" refers to a single affiliate station, but also communicates that there is, in fact, only one affiliate in the listening area.  "A local affiliate" refers to a single affiliate station, but says nothing about the overall number of affiliates in the listening area.  Taking this into account, note that The Ed Schultz Show website] does not list WABQ as an affiliate.  Neither does Mike Malloy's website.  How many other stations carry these programs in the general listening area?  We don't know.  "A local" works in the case there's only one affiliate.  "A local" works in the case there's more than one affiliate.   Levdr1 lp  ( talk ) 08:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * "We don't know"? Seriously...all you (or anyone else) has to do is go through the list of stations to see that there are no other stations in the Cleveland (or even Akron--which in radio is seperate) markets that carry either a liberal talk format or these shows.  Going on Ed Schultz or Mike Malloys websites doesn't matter, because all you have to do is go on WABQ's website to see that they carry those shows.  Saying "we don't know" holds no water when all anyone has to do is just take 5 minutes and look.  Vjmlhds 14:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have reworded the lead to end this ridiculous back-and-forth.  Levdr1 lp  ( talk ) 18:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Fine by me. Vjmlhds 18:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It's worth noting that "an affiliate" is how I first worded the lead.  Levdr1 lp  ( talk ) 01:36, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Sports
WABQ is also the Lake County affiliate for OSU football, and it is the Lake County affilate for the Buckeyes and Cavs, not just Painesville. All teams have an affiliate in each county. For example, WEOL is the Lorain County affiliate for the Indians, Cavs, and Buckeyes...not just merely Elyria's affiliate.

Vjmlhds 18:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have re-applied the previously agreed upon wording of "an affiliate".  Levdr1 lp  ( talk ) 01:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

The Tribe
I have added a 2nd reference (tunein.com) to show that WABQ is the Painesville/Lake County affiliate for the Cleveland Indians. This goes along with the Indians' own website listing them as an affiliate. The Tribe erred in listing 1460 under it's old WBKC call letters, which may have caused some confusion. Speaking of websites, it looks like WABQ hasn't touched theirs since Thanksgiving. Vjmlhds 01:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Neither reference is sufficient; the first does not use the station's current callsign, so it may be out of date, and the second (TuneIn) is a mix of user generated content and online stream info. The Indians do not stream games online, so who knows where that info came from.  WP:RELIABLE   Levdr1 lp  ( talk ) 02:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Would the Indians list a station if they weren't part of the network? I don't see how that would happen.  I honestly feel that the team just made a mistake in listing call letters.  MLB run websites usually run a tight ship, and it just seems implausible that they'd list a station as an affiliate when they aren't. Vjmlhds 02:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no date on the affiliate listing page, so there's no way of knowing how old it is.  Levdr1 lp  ( talk ) 03:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

WABQ website
I will grant you that WABQ's website is very low quality (and what the heck skyline is that?..it surely isn't Cleveland).

What would be the best way to verify that it IS WABQ's website?

Common sense would say why would someone bother to make a bogus website for a very small, East side of Cleveland radio station that barely makes it out of Lake County (if that)?

But it isn't worth quibbling over, so if I can get it verified, I'll add it...if not, the heck with it.

Vjmlhds 20:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Where did you first hear about this site?  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  01:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I found it while doing a search on Yahoo. Vjmlhds 04:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Unless you hear the station on air feed direct listeners to the url, or you find a reliable source which verifies that the station has an official website, leave it out. I'm also concerned about the content lifted directly from this article.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  05:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm out of WABQ's listening range (unless it's a nice day and I'm in my car...it's a rumor on my home radio), and I have no idea where to find a stream (Tunein doesn't work for this station), so as I said, it isn't worth the hassle...it stays off. Vjmlhds 16:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

WABQ in the present day
Listening in on my car radio today (Tuesday, November 19th, 2019 from 11:40am to 12:10pm EST), I can 100% confirm that WABQ dropped its' talk format and reverted to its' prior gospel music format. There have been several instances over the past year where I have heard WABQ running gospel music and not a talk format.

The problem with this is, not only does the station have no internet or streaming presence to speak of, there is next to no coverage about WABQ 1460 to speak of. When one of the top hits on Google points to a blog post I wrote regarding the switch to talk in 2011, there is a serious problem here. I cannot confirm when the switch back to gospel music took place, just that it clearly did between 2015 (if not earlier) and today. (Let alone the introductory paragraph that it was an affiliate of the long-gone Ed Schultz, god rest his soul.) Nathan Obral (talk) 21:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)