Talk:WCW International World Heavyweight Championship

Replica?
The current belt representing the (WWE) World Heavyweight Title isn't a replica of the WCW Title Belt. That's a huge misconseption. Ric Flair once said on WWE Confidential, that it is the genuine article. SilentRage 11:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, it was the real belt for a while, but now they actually use a copy of it that has a small WWE logo on the top of it. It was swapped in shortly before WrestleMania XX, while Triple H was World Heavyweight Champion.--oknazevad 03:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Flair's first reign

 * The list of WCW International World Heavyweight champions page says that wcw left the nwa on the same day rick rude beat flair for the nwa champioship. From what I understand this means that rude was the first wcw international world champion, meaning that flair was not the first champion. Can someone reply and answer this? Should Flair be a two time or one time wcw international champion? I have some sources to back me up:


 * http://www.cpol.net/tonyd/ricflair.htm
 * http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7411/Flair_titles.html
 * http://www.popstarsplus.com/wrestling_men_ricflair.htm
 * http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0282310/bio

Also should Rude's third reign be recognised? Secretaria 00:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-in-h.html (note that Flair is recognised as champion in this page but my doubt remains).
 * This is a tough one. wrestling-titles.com even says Flair won the title when it was the NWA title. I think Flair is considered the first champion because WCW withdrew from the NWA before September 18th (which was the date of the Fall Brawl PPV). So it was still the NWA title when Flair won it, but became the International Title before he lost it to Rude. TJ Spyke 08:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * So the date of July 18, 1993 as the beggining of Flair's reign is wrong. We need to find out the exact day WCW left the NWA. Secretaria 11:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the reign counts when he won it (although i'm not 100% sure). Just like how Tazz won his first ECW title in January 1999, even though the title didn't get world title status until August 1999 that is considered a 8 month world title reign and not just 1 month. TJ Spyke 22:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Flair won the NWA World Title for the 10th time on July 18, 1993. WCW severed ties with the NWA on September 1, 1993. Flair is somewhat retroactively considered the first WCW International Champ as he was NWA World Champ, and WCW owned the belt and had to call it something. And the fact that Flair defeated Sting to unify the WCW International Title with the WCW Title makes Flair a 2 time WCW International Champ. Total that with his 10 NWA World Titles, 8 WCW Titles, & 2 WWF Titles makes Flair a 22 time champ, not 16. Goes to show WWE can't count! MrNWA4Life 11:04 25 July 2009

The first person to be recognized as WCW International world heavyweight Champion was Rick Rude. Saying that flair was "retroactively the first champion" is bs. WCW Fan 2000 (talk) 07:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

WCW International
WCW International should have its own article. Discuss. Brendan Heron (talk) 23:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You should probably bring this up at WT:PW. This way more editors will get involved in the discussion.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 00:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge with WCW World Heavyweight Championship
This should really be merged with the article on the regular WCW World Heavyweight Championship that was borne out of the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. The information between the pages is nearly identical.

One article that explains the origins of the title, the spin off of the International championship due to Flair leaving/the separation from the NWA, and the separate short lived 6 star WCW World Heavyweight Championship would be a lot more fluid. JasonOT (talk) 06:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You only needed to post this on one page. Either way, I oppose. Different title, separately defended, even if there is some shared history. The same could be said for many titles, and we wouldn't merge them either. oknazevad (talk) 02:59, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


 * This title and the WCW World title were two separate World titles that splintered off from the NWA World Heavyweight Championship under two separate sets of circumstances in 1993 and 1991 respectively. They both co-existed together for several months in WCW during 1993-1994 and were eventually unified at Clash of the Champions XXVII on June 23 1994 when Ric Flair pinned Sting. 2.24.71.58 (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Not just no, HELL no! This is a featured article and is a totally different subject than the other WCW World title.LM2000 (talk) 00:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, chill. JasonOT just needed it explaining to him. 2.24.71.58 (talk) 00:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You're right, I'm sorry. There was no reason to get so emotional over a post from five years ago from an editor that hasn't made an edit since 2015.LM2000 (talk) 01:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)