Talk:WKEF

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Fair use rationale for Image:Countdownabc22.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material
Hello, Please do not add unreferenced names as entries to the list of former employees in the article. Not including this type of material in articles abides by current consensus and is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:


 * 1) WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
 * 2) As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced.
 * 3) WP:NLIST tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article.
 * 4) Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). thanks Deconstructhis (talk) 16:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

W22DE/W66AQ
I'm not sure if W22DE (former W66AQ) in Dayton is broadcasting on any channel now that WCPO has moved to RF 22. When it was broadcasting post-digital transition, it was a simulcast of WRGT 45.2 "MyTV Dayton", not a satellite of WSTR.

Based on a mistaken reading of a poorly worded website, another Wikipedia user has associated W22DE with WWRD-LP in Dayton. It definitely shouldn't be there, although I'm not totally comfortable with associating it with WSTR. It would appear it's still considered a translator for WSTR. Does anyone have any idea what plans Sinclair has or had for W22DE. It probably should be referenced somewhere. Perhaps at WRGT? --Chaswmsday (talk) 20:23, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

W22DE - 2013 License Renewal
According to the 2013 License Renewal Appication filed with the FCC, W22DE is still on the air. (See Section V, Question 2a.) They have not filed for a construction permit to convert the station to digital. Just an educated guess, but I'm guessing that Sinclair continues to operate the translator in order to interfere with the WCPO signal, blocking the WCPO signal and making WKEF the default ABC affiliate where the signal is blocked. And I am also assuming that they can legally continue to broadcast because this is an analog signal much like analog and digital signals would run into each other during the period leading to transition to DTV Only signals?

Again, these are just educated guesses, but an application stating to the FCC that your signal is still on means that your signal is still on!

Here is the license renewal application:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1557475&Service=TX&Form_id=303&Facility_id=11203

--DirtyHarry667 (talk) 15:23, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * My "facts on the ground"/original research (I rather frequently check old analogs/new digitals in the Dayton area) suggest that Sinclair/Cunningham/whichever shell company is not broadcasting on RF 22. I'm an editor who generally trusts Primary Sources (for non-controversial, "no incentive to lie" statements), but in this case, I don't really trust the accuracy of Sinclair's license filing. Per this discussion, it is asserted that the FCC database itself likely contains inaccuracies.


 * While W22DE may not technically be "silent", I don't believe it has broadcast since WPCO displaced it. Rabbitears.info agrees.
 * IMO, asserting that W22DE is currently on the air is a bit strong; I will reword WKEF & WSTR-TV articles. --Chaswmsday (talk) 18:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Brush-Moore, Group One, Springfield Television timeline
Blueboy96, I'm not sure about the edit(s) you made, starting on 29 February 2008. I'm finding references in Broadcasting magazine (http://www.davidgleason.com/Archive%20BC/64-OCR/BC-1964-01-20-Page-84.pdf) showing Springfield Television ownership of the station in 1964, not 1965. Do you have citations that state otherwise? I've just started to research the rest of the early timeline. --Chaswmsday (talk) 14:39, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Former station/news slogans
I don't know what else editor 108.209.237.15 may have done to any other articles, but I'm not sure that restoring the following station slogans here constituted vandalism:


 * The Miami Valley's News Team/Working For You (1994-1999)
 * Your Local News Source (2000-2006)

This text existed previously in the article, is not of the form "localized version of network's ad campaign", and my gut tells me they are correct. I tried looking at archive.org, but couldn't figure out one way or the other. At worst, these slogans are just unverified. --Chaswmsday (talk) 12:28, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I would have no reservations about re-including those if they didn't have "localized...", I will add them back in even though I detest slogan sections to begin with :) -- ḾỊḼʘɴίcả  •  Talk  •  I DX for fun!  15:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know that these slogans are unverifiable, just that I couldn't find them while poking around in archive.org. Maybe someone, somewhere, has digitized or paper TV Guides or newspapers...or video clips...at their disposal... --Chaswmsday (talk) 17:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)