Talk:WWE Intercontinental Championship

Barock Obama
Soemone vandalised the page and put Obama as the current IC champion (as of July 9 2009), I will change it back to Mysterio--86.8.29.250 (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.29.250 (talk) 17:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

That is hilarious though😅 Pledgewinters (talk) 07:51, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Just imagine YasireExd (talk) 15:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Prestige?
Is it me? or does the history of the IC championship make it look like its more prestigious than the US Championship, and WWE Championship. A lot of the Titles have been unified with it and had been unified with the World Heavyweight Championship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.109.74 (talk) 01:13, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Belt Design
How does the classic belt look anything like the ECW tag team title belt? --68.193.135.2 07:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The ECW tag team titles from around 1997 had similar main plate design as the WWF IC title belt, they(ECW) eventually changed it though as the promotion grew to their own unique custom design TonyFreakinAlmeida 20:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Another Listing Category
I think there should be a page that has the "List of Intercontinental Champions by combined length" like the WWE Championship page does. Any Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mv2000 (talk • contribs)

Shortest Reign
Wouldn't it be Triple H when he won the The Intercontinental Championship was immediately abandoned after it was unfied with the World Championship Overlordneo 18:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

That is correct.--Prince Patrick 15:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Technically, that is true; however, I think most people would think the shortest reign of someone that actually defended the title. WWE lists on the title history for the IC title Triple H did win the title from Kane, so how about having a second shortest reign, and there being a note that it's the shortest reign where the title was defended (instead of unified as it did for HHH). Anakinjmt 19:26, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

On other belts when they are unfied with other titles as shortest regins so why is it diffrent with this title? Overlordneo 02:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

That's ridiculous. He combined the title with the World title. How can it be said it was simply a 1 second title reign when he was never actually beaten for the title. --Endlessdan 13:56, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

But he still won the title, WWE lists it as a title reign and it was immediatly forfited, much similar to Trish Stratus' Women's title reign, or RVD's European/Hardcore title reigns, all of which were at one stage listed or still are as shortest reigns, so it doesnt need to be defended to be shortest reigns.220.253.117.29 01:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem here is that "immediately" isn't a length of time at all (not even 0.00001 seconds). So it can't be measured against any other time. It's like infinity. Triple H never actually held the IC title here, he went from being simple WWF Champion to unified WWF Champion as soon as the bell rang.  If he'd grabbed the mic and announced the unification a minute later, it'd be different. But the stipulation was clear when the match began. It didn't say anything about 0.00001 seconds. This is one of those dubious cases where a primary source (WWE title history) isn't good enough. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:01, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Notice WWE.com explicitly states Douglas' reign was the shortest. But notice WorldWrestlingInsanity says Jericho's reign was exactly ten minutes and Douglas' match alone is recorded at 11:01. So who do we believe? The guys who said a 7'5 '' giant wrestled before 93,000 fans and Patterson won in Rio? I'll look into it. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:58, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Devalued Championship
Should there be a section that states how the title has a less meaning in WWE now with 3 World Championships? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.21.123 (talk • contribs)
 * That is OR, so no. TJ Spyke 01:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Picutre
Maybe someone should put a new pic. Maybe of Jeff or a recent champ, not Orton who held it a few years ago. WeLsHy 04:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It would need to be a free picture, and there really aren't a lot of good ones around. -- Scorpion0422 04:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Couldn't we get one from a site that sells replica belts or something? It just needs to capture the image of the belt itself. SuperSonicTH 14:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

The picture should be of Chris Jericho who has won the IC Title a record 8 times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.154.146.197 (talk) 00:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Chyna
No mention of Chyna, the only woman to ever obtain anything other than a woman only belt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.126.232 (talk) 18:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Not true, some women have held the Cruiserweight Title. WeLsHy (talk) 00:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

And a few women have held the Hardcore title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.115.155.55 (talk) 17:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Just added her.--P.4.P. No. 1 (talk) 05:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

world status
shoudnt the ic championship have world status cause it was defended outside the u.s many times befor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.216.167 (talk) 22:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Not relevant. It's the Intercontinental Championship. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Before they brought back the World Heavyweight Championship when Brock Lesnar refused to defend the WWE Championship on RAW the storyline was to unify all the championships into one and make it a World Championship, but that storyline was dropped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.109.163 (talk) 22:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks different from before when? ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 15:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

ok look at it when Carlito ,Umaga had it and look at it now —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcos26 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The most recent change to the title's design was when it was re-activated after being unified with the World Heavyweight Championship. I haven't seen a single change to it since then. So please link us to some verifiable images of the design changes that you speak of. Kogoro  _9_23  01:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * They added a nameplate to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SChaos1701 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Old Name for IC Title
For a long while, it was call the Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship so I thought I would add that to past names. User: SChaos1701
 * So it was you? That's not a different, old name but a longer form of the same name. The old (Randy Savage, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels) designs, which was revived a couple of years ago, actually reads "Intercontinental Heavyweight Wrestling Champion", even though the title was usually just called "Intercontinental Champion". There absolutely was no change in 1992 and least of all does a reference to a video of Wrestlemania I serve as a source for anything but that one event in 1985. Str1977 (talk) 13:57, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Please Don't Vandalize the Page
Some took off an old name form the IC Title. Please do not do this. It was called the Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship on Television and the first few WrestleManias. Not to mention it was referred to as such on old belt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SChaos1701 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wwe/ic.html

Here is video evidence.

http://www.dailymotion.com/nordpasdecalais/video/x4sp8b_wwe-wrestlemania-1-part-4_sport

It is mentioned as the Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship at the 9:53, 10:16, and 11:48 marks. There is an onscreen graphic calling it as such at the 9:32 mark and one showing Greg Valentine as the Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion at 9:59.

This is evidence enough that this is a former name of the title so please do not remove it from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SChaos1701 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow. This is pretty simple. EVERY TITLE IN THE WWE is a heavyweight class title, unless stated specficially otherwise (ie, Light Heavyweight or Cruiserweight). The titles have never been "named" or "renamed" with or without weight classes. You notice the de-emphasis of the weight class because of the migration of pro wrestling from kayfabe legitimate sport to sports-entertainment. As such, its no longer important to keep up the ruse of legitimate weight divisions, so they no longer bother with pronouncing ABC Title to be the ABC Heavyweight Title. Its along the same lines of the de-emphasis of time limits and 'time of the fall' announcements. Get a grip; the Intercontinental title has, is currently, and will likely always be a heavyweight division title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.115.155.55 (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I absolutely agree. And a Wrestlemania video cannot be a source for an imagined namechange in 1992. Str1977 (talk) 13:59, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Old Designs?
I have noticed that some pages about Championships lack "past design" images or have had them removed. Would somebody like to post images of the old belt designs?Man of the night (talk) 03:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If we any that complied with WP:FU, we most certainly would. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Bogus "Rio de Janeiro" Tournament
All info I have points to the "Rio de Janeiro" Tournament being a fabrication of WWWF to explain the new title. 98.213.251.93 (talk) 02:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

So what? Wikipedia has all sorts of histories for fictitious characters. Professional Wrestling doesn't need fact Nazi's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.121.52.2 (talk) 19:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

My point is, why isn't that part of the article? 69.136.13.211 (talk) 02:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Name?
When was the last time the belt was referred to as the "WWE" Intercontinental Championship? I believe the page should be moved to something like "Intercontinental Championship (WWE)", in the same manner as the company's World Heavyweight Championship page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBadd (talk • contribs) 06:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Graphics... where's your source?-- Unquestionable Truth -- 06:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * On the WWE website, they only list it as the Intercontinental Title just as they do with the World Heavyweight Title. I do think that the page on Wikipedia should reflect that change. Either the Intercontinental Championship should not be preceded by "WWE" or the World Heavyweight Championship should also be preceded by "WWE". TheGary (talk) 17:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

We are not a copy of the WWE.com site. The name is correct. Darrenhusted (talk) 17:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am just saying that they also refer to both as being WWE titles at the following link as well: http://corporate.wwe.com/news/2004/2004_10_05.jsp. So it seems that either both should have the prefix or both should not have the prefix. TheGary (talk) 17:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

new design
no mention of stone cold frowing the old belt in the river and how that led to a new design these title articles are realy bad these days they offer no exsplantion when it comes to design changes and leave out many other important facts pictures of the diffrent designs also go a long way to making these articles better also im pretty sure the tournament in brazil was fictional 92.25.193.244 (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * WWE doesn't exactly go out of their way to explain design changes these days. 69.136.13.211 (talk) 02:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

barrett
barrett is the current champ why does it say kofi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.3.102.174 (talk) 05:04, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

New Design
Since there isn't a real good image out there of the new design, I fashioned one that pretty much looks like the new design out of various pictures. I don't know what the liscense would be on it, but you guys could use it on the page if you want. http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac234/GVSG/Wrestling%20PNGs/Belts/WWE/newic.png?t=1323855217 TheGary (talk) 09:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

shortest reign
i noticed on here triple h's unification was the shortest reign and now i see that dean douglas holds it will 11 mins. so which one is it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.32.154 (talk) 22:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Triple H technically didn't have a reign. As soon as he won, it was unified and immediately ceased being the Intercontinental Championship. "Immediately" isn't a short period of time. It's no time at all. So Dean Douglas is shortest (though Jericho is very close). InedibleHulk (talk) 00:16, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/intercontinental/322732 i think that hhh had a regin.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:09, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That also suggests his reign is "October 20, 2002-present". That's a bit over eleven minutes and slightly incorrect. We'd need a better source, with an actual time and mention of a reign, not just a win. He certainly won the belt, but didn't really hold it. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * in that case, Triple H has the lomgest regin ever XD. But i think that a unification it's a one second regin, because he hold it, but inmediatly was unified.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 01:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * "Immediately" means "without interval of time". As soon as the bell rang, that title was unified. Not a second later, or even a nanosecond. Can't be measured, so can't be comparatively ranked among measurable times. It may help to think of "immediately" as something like infinity, but seemingly smaller. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:47, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can write something like"shortest regin:Triple H, unification". --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:39, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No, because "shortest" and "longest" are comparative measurements. A reign that had no duration can't be measured or compared to other reigns, so can't be shorter or longer. The shortest reign belongs to either Jericho or Douglas. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

ok so douglas has the shortest reign....now i was looking at former belts and for the wcw world heavyweight championship it says that chris jericho holds the shortest reign with unification????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.32.154 (talk) 20:41, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out. It was also wrong, for the same reasons. I've changed it to Hollywood Hogan's shady reign at Bash at the Beach, which lasted about fifteen minutes. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:53, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Youngest and oldest champs?
Since the majority of other championships have this, might it be worth noting who the youngest champ was with this title? Jedi Striker (talk) 04:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * We already do. Jeff Hardy was 23 years, 222 days. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:18, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, you meant in the body. Yeah, that's fine. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:44, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's what I meant. Who was the oldest? Jedi Striker (talk) 17:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Flair. It's in the infobox. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

South American defenses?
It seems WWF/E has avoided South America, and even more, avoided having IC title matches there. They made a few tours between 2007 and 2012, and every other available title (Women's and Diva's) was defended at least once. It's weird.

Anybody see something I don't, to add to the Etymology section for this forgotten continent? InedibleHulk (talk) 13:34, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Image
The former image was extremely low resolution, so I've replaced it with a clearer image of the current belt design. Ozdarka (talk) 02:23, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Regional championship?
There is an editing dispute as to whether the Intercontinental title is a regional championship. Since it is not universal like the World Championship and represents a smaller area, I argue that it represents a region (originally, the Americas). This question needs to be addressed in order to determine whether or not this article belongs in the category of regional championships. Ozdarka (talk) 09:39, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Typically, in sports and sport-like things, you have your regionals, your nationals and your world championships. Wrestling's no different, pro or amateur. Regional should apply only to titles that stay within a subnational region. Not this one, not the Mexican National Welterweight Championship, nothing that's defended across a country or a planet. Even a galaxy is technically a region, but we have to draw the lines somewhere, and those lines are long established.
 * The WWC Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship is regional. See the difference? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't see the difference between the WWE and WWC intercontinental championships. What makes the WWC one regional? It's still an intercontinental title. Ozdarka (talk) 01:47, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's only contested in Puerto Rico. This IC title has been defended on every continent except Antarctica and (oddly enough) South America. The words in the title don't matter. WWE's United States Championship often goes beyond the US, and Maple Leaf Wrestling's rarely left Toronto. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:04, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Don't Vandalize the Page and Put Stupid Bullshit
Someone changed the current champion section from Ryback to "Izzy_Crazy_". I changed it back, tho. Someone keeps vandalizing championship pages. They put Tamina as WWE WHC, Zack Ryder as Divas Champion, "Izzy_Crazy" as US Champ, and "Izzy_Crazy as Intercontinental Champ. I've fixed most so don't worry.                                                                    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B825:6940:A0BD:98B5:153A:C91D (talk) 21:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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New IC title design
Are there any reviews from credible sources on the new IC title design because i see a polarized reception from fans on twitter Pledgewinters (talk) 07:57, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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When did WWE drop the "Heavyweight"
At one point in time the official name for this title was the WWF Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship (named similar to the NA/SA Heavyweight titles). At some point, it was officially dropped to just the WWF Intercontinental Championship so I think we should try to find an official date (or close), not just list it as WWF Intercontinental (Heavyweight) Championship which implies it's a nickname, or the Heavyweight billing was only dropped when the promotion became WWE, which isn't true. From what I can tell it likely 1992, during either Roddy Piper or Bret Hart's reign, but idk for sure. This isn't just something people imagined like some past discussions implied, this is no different than noting the changes from the WWE World Heavyweight -> WWE World -> WWE Championship. We don't list the entire history as WWE (World (Heavyweight)) Championship because that's just silly.  AEW Fanboy talk 23:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Temporary compromise
There is an issue I have been noticing where people have been putting Gunther as the longest reigning champion when that is not true yet, but will be on September 8, 2023, the record is still the honky tonk man. My suggestion is to add a footnote, stating "the record is still technically the Honey tonk Man at 454 days, but this will change on September 8" then on September 8 we can remove this footnote and that way we're still given the correct information and we don't have to keep changing from the Honky tonk man to Gunther and back again a bunch of times like we have been doing for the past day. (please don't yell at me it's only a suggestion.) 2600:8804:1A80:3B00:40A5:F914:ED2F:4788 (talk) 01:35, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * OK this is no longer an issue 2600:8804:1A80:DE00:B92F:874E:9ADC:7450 (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2023 (UTC)