Talk:WWE SmackDown/Archive 3

Undertaker Stripped of the Title
Was at the AC show tonight, Taker was stripped of the belt. Do we update this now or after the show airs?`Linknumbers (talk) 04:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * After the show airs somewhere in the world. ArcAngel (talk) 12:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

That really seems odd to me though, considering how wwe.com has Taker listed as defending the title on the May 2nd SD! airing. ArcAngel (talk) 01:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Consider yourself swerved.Linknumbers (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Redundancy + Apology
Ack, didn't mean to click the vandalism rollback button on Twinkle. Sorry about that. Also, what's with the redundancy below the General Managers table? Theodore Long and Vickie Guerrero are listed outside, right below the table as GMs. Th 2005 (talk) 07:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Renaming
There is a current discussion on whether to move the article, please visit here for the discussion.--  S R  X  22:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Why the hell do some SmackDown!s have "!s" and some don't?

RandySavageFTW (talk) 09:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Because, before 2008, SmackDown! has the "!", and the show was called "SmackDown!" w/ the "!", the only thing that was changed is the name of this article, SmackDown!s with the !, are redirected to this page. We can't change the way things were.-- SRX-- Latino Heat  11:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Would we say: "Wrestling on its SmackDown! brand" or "Wrestling on its SmackDown brand"?

RandySavageFTW (talk) 17:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * If you are talking about a wrestler that wrestled on the SmackDown brand before 2008 then you would say "on its SmackDown! brand". However if you are talking about wrestlers that currently wrestle on the brand then you would say "on its SmackDown brand". You should take a look at capitalization and Italicization on our project's Style guide for more info.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 01:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Request permission to move "WWE Friday Night SmackDown" to "WWE SmackDown" to avoid further confusion? AdamDeanHall (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't need to ask for permission. No one needs to ask for permission to move pages. What you need to do however is form a consensus so that the community supports your move as well. This issue has already come to numerous discussions and the end results of those discussions have been mixed responses. I personally think it should be moved to "WWE SmackDown" but its not up to me to decided where this page goes. If you want to take it to another vote, I wouldn't mind.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 17:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well there was a vote, and it was decided that it should remain as it is, per primary sources, such as WWE and CWTV, they list the show as WWE Friday Night SmackDown. However, My Network TV lists it as WWE SmackDown, so once the show switches shows I think we can rename it, we'll see, as we aren't a crystal ball. SR<b style="color:black;">X</b>-- <b style="color:orange;">Latino</b> <b style="color:green;">Heat</b>  20:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been transferred to WT:PW-- <b style="color:black;">S</b><b style="color:orange;">R</b><b style="color:black;">X</b>-- <b style="color:orange;">Latino</b> <b style="color:green;">Heat</b>  02:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Sooo...
I have a question. Are we going to add the Divas Championship to the list of titles yet, or are we going to wait until the match is shown and the two contenders are known? —Preceding unsigned comment added by King Shuckle (talk • contribs) 19:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no such title, the title they referred to on television was the WWE Women's Championship.-- <b style="color:black;">S</b><b style="color:orange;">R</b><b style="color:black;">X</b>-- <b style="color:orange;">Latino</b> <b style="color:green;">Heat</b>  20:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Not according to tonight's episode of Smackdown. Talk of crowning the Divas Champion implies a new title. Otherwise Vickie would have called it the Women's title. Plus, this question exists on WWE.com on the Smackdown Section "Who would you like to see Natayla face for the WWE Divas Championship at Night of Champions?" So I suggest you go fact-checking like I have. King Shuckle (talk) 03:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * We are aware of the new Diva's title. However due to the severity of the lack of information presently available we have chosen not to acknowledge the title yet. The last time a new championship was supposedly announced before the draft, it's existence turned out to be unnecessary (SmackDown! Championship in 2005). A note of the mention from tonight's episode would be acceptable though.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 04:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Is Smackdown the 2nd tier of WWE ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.45.71 (talk) 17:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Smackdown Logo


So, these are two SmackDown logos obviously. The first being the current official logo used on tv and the other being the one used Pre-HD era. So I just wanna ask, because I think the the other logo should be named as the "Alternate Logo" used. I mean look at the supplemental draft page and the logo used to show the talent drafted.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/wwedraft2008/7505418/

I took it here so it can be discussed by the community if we should do the edit or not :)

"The WWE Championship is now officially Smackdown" - Hhh210 (talk) 22:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Special episodes
Should Championship friday be added? it happened on May 2, 2008!! Adster95 (talk) 11:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

WWE Friday Night SmackDown
Move to WWE SmackDown? The logo doesn't use Friday Night Anymore, the only reference to it as "Friday Night SmackDown" is the CW and commentators. Currently, no where is it referred to it as FNS, .-- <b style="color:black;">S</b><b style="color:orange;">R</b><b style="color:black;">X</b>-- <b style="color:orange;">Latino</b> <b style="color:green;">Heat</b>  02:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <b style="color:#ff0000">13</b><b style="color:black">62</b>talk 03:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose... there was a vote over this name change 2 months ago. The decision was to keep it as is per TV Guide or CW's channel listings or something. --Endless Dan 12:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose First of all, booya!. Second, the name is still refered to by the network and the announcers, as you said. That's a pretty big deal. Mshake3 (talk) 13:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey I don't mind the opposition, this was brought up on the talk page, so I just thought a vote would have worked. <b style="color:black;">S</b><b style="color:orange;">R</b><b style="color:black;">X</b>-- <b style="color:orange;">Latino</b> <b style="color:green;">Heat</b>  14:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Endlessdan and Mshake3. -- iMa tth ew  T.C. 01:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Darrenhusted (talk) 08:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support WWE, to my knowledge, doesn't refer to SmackDown! with the Friday Night part SAVIOR_  SELF  .777  23:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Scratch that. After seeing this, I oppose the move. SAVIOR_  SELF  .777  05:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Need facts checked, possible vandalism
I need the recent edits made by DX10 (Contribs)to be checked for factual accuracy because I am not an expert on wrestling. This editor has introduced deliberate factual errors into other articles and it is possible that this editor has done the same here. -- B.D.Mills (T, C) 12:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

"I Dare You" by Shinedown
Could the new theme for WWE Friday Night SmackDown be titled "I Dare You" by Shinedown, by any chance? AdamDeanHall (talk) 03:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Isn't that what the name of the song is?-- S <sub style="color:blue;">R X  03:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * nope; heres i dare u from youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLy2LDO1dSw —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.186.90.174 (talk) 20:46, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

It Is the name of the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.127.253 (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I listened to this song and they used this song to kick off Smackdown on a commercial along with Wrestlemania XXIV. Snowydweather (User talk:Snowydweather) 8:43, 31 October 2008

This is the current Smackdown song as of October...... does anyone know the name of it<b style="background:black;color:red"> шшє</b><b style="background:white;color:black"> ₣дN </b><b style="background:black;color:red"> ӧ9 </b>


 * im pretty sure its Airbourne - Going down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2urIbuHimok&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by WWE FAN 09 (talk • contribs) 06:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

WCW Smackdown
What about this? WCW Smackdown. Rare footage we've all forgot about. Should this be noted? 24.226.23.56 (talk) 05:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, this. Another match from that night. 24.226.23.56 (talk) 02:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Already noted at The Invasion (professional wrestling).  TJ   Spyke   13:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

for the special episodes...
Can we put where they took place? (city, arena)

Umm most people would say that wouldn't be notable and you would probably need to add another row in! Although it could go in the notes. But I'm not sure if it would be notable enough sorry.Adster95 (talk) 16:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Theme song
Lets put the orignal theme song and the current one up as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Cutting Edge
It was never discounted so it should be 2007- present. In the Smackdown! spoilers for next week Edge interviews Matt Hardy. Pavlen (talk) 16:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

On the CW at 11pm
I don't know if I'm the only one seeing this, but Smackdown is airing right now on the CW. Was going to add it to the list of channels, but wanted to discuss it first. I understand it is a replay from earlier, but here where I am (Middle Gergia), we don't get MyNetwork Tv. So I was wondering if I was the only one seeing it happen?--EmperorofBlackPeopleEverywhere (talk) 04:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that you don't get MyNetworkTV is probably why. Your local CW affiliate is airing it (I don't know which one since you just said middle Georgia). Back when SmackDown was on UPN, the same thing happened (in markets that didn't get UPN, local Fox affiliates would air SmackDown).  TJ   Spyke   04:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. I didn't really get it.. Yeah, I'm in Macon, and the cable service doesn't come with MyNetwork. But thanks for that because I was close to adding it into the article, which ould've probably resulted in a large and unnecessary edit war. Confusion Resolved. Cheers!--EmperorofBlackPeopleEverywhere (talk) 05:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Upcoming Special
Smackdown will have its 500 episode soon, thats worth mentioning.--Cooly123 (talk) 18:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Not if WWE doesn't say anything. If they treat it like a normal episode, so do we.  TJ   Spyke   18:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Tazz leaving commentary
Maybe we should fix the commentray section since Tazz is no longer a commentator for Smackdown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.194.21.206 (talk • contribs)
 * WWE has not even confirmed whether or not Tazz has left. Even if the rumors are true, he could always re-sign before next weeks SmackDown. If the reports are true, then it would be changed next week after the SmackDown tapings.  TJ   Spyke   21:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Mexican Transmission
Hi, I am mexican and I know that in Canal 5 only transmit WWE Raw. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.170.178.85 (talk) 17:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  TJ   Spyke   17:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Announcers
User talk:A.lanzetta keeps vandalizing the page and switching the order of Ross and Grisham for no reason. I have valid reasons to have him reported, I will let him try and explain why he thinks it should be otherwise.  TJ   Spyke   19:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The starting date of Jim Ross and Mick Foley should be the same as the ending date for Michael Cole and Mick Foley since WWE Draft picks become effective immediately, and JR and Foley finished the draft broadcast together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.193.229 (talk) 06:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Todd Grisham is the Play by Play announcer and Jim Ross is the Color Commentator. (User talk:A.lanzetta) 09:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So? There is no rule that the play-by-play announcer gets listed first.  TJ   Spyke   01:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

On the WWE Superstars section, it is listed Grisham & Ross. (User talk:A.lanzetta) 10:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Where do you see them listed: ?  TJ   Spyke   02:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

WWE Superstars TV Show page on Wikipedia. (User talk:A.lanzetta) 10:46, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for why that argument doesn't work.  TJ   Spyke   16:25, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Has there been a time when we havn't listed the main play-by-play guy first? Mshake3 (talk) 20:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For events that Vince McMahon commentated on we list him first even though he was more of a color commentator. I don't feel that strongly on this, I was more annoyed that A.lanzetta refused to discuss it even after I asked him too.  TJ   Spyke   22:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I right now understand it. I'm sorry. (User talk:A.lanzetta) 03:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

But why does it has to be Ross and Grisham? I just asking. (User talk:A.lanzetta) 04:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't really care anymore. To me it just sounds better and more natural to say "Jim Ross and Todd Grisham" (the same way it just sounds better saying "Raw and SmackDown" rather than "SmackDown and Raw").  TJ   Spyke   21:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Requested move
...and that is...THE-- Unquestionable Truth --

WWE SmackDown → WWE Friday Night SmackDown — This is the correct and official name of the show according to WWE itself (http://www.wwe.com/shows/). The article was only moved because a couple of users think the show should use the abbreviated names used in some international broadcasts (nevermind that it's a US show broadcasted by a US company and the official name is FNS). -  TJ   Spyke   18:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.


 * Oppose -- per my reasoning in the discussion section.-- <b style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"> T ru c o </b>  <b style="color:black;"> 503 </b> 18:43, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Common name is SmackDown. We are the English pedia, not the US pedia. We're all not living in Americka TJ.-- Will C  18:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that, I guess we should ignore that WWE makes it clear that the official name is FNS and that the international name is not the shows official name. Kinda BS that the article should not be at the shows official name.  TJ   Spyke   18:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Its the official US name, but what is it called in other countries? If WWE were based in Spain, and they called it Friday Night SmackDown, but they just called it SmackDown here and the rest of the world, what would be the common name per WP:RETAIN?-- <b style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"> T ru c o </b>  <b style="color:black;"> 503 </b> 19:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Spain? No. UK, Canada, Australia, etc. Yes it would be called FNS. I really think ENGVAR could be applied here. There is no reason for it to be just "WWE SmackDown".  TJ   Spyke   19:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Simple: Commonname.-- Will C  23:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose TJ, TJ, TJ, WWE SmackDown is the common name.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 23:39, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose No one ever says "Did you see that great match on WWE Friday Night SmackDown last night? In other words, common name. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know about you and your friends, but people DO say stuff like "did you watch that great match on Friday Night SmackDown?".  TJ   Spyke   00:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Or maybe its just you...-- Unquestionable Truth -- 00:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And WWE, WON, PWT, OWW, etc. The only time I see people say just "SmackDown" is when they want to abbreviate the correct name (like how you say "WWE" instead of "World Wrestling Entertainment"). I can't believe I have to defend the official name of the show being used as the article title, this should be a no-brainer.  TJ   Spyke   01:05, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * TJ again you fail to understand the reason for this dispute. No one is saying that WWE Friday Night SmackDown isn't the show's name in the United States. However, the correct name used in every other English speaking country is in fact WWE SmackDown. So, because the "Friday Night" name is only used in the U.S. and because we are not US-centric, the common name is simply WWE SmackDown.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 01:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that it is called that in some other countries, but WWE itself considers the show to still be Friday Night SmackDown and calls it that on the show itself and on its website.  TJ   Spyke   01:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That is because that is what the show is called in the U.S. and that is what WWE considers the show's name to be in the U.S. That is obviously not the case in other countries. In the rest of the world the show's name is simply WWE SmackDown which means that WWE considers the show's name to be WWE SmackDown in the rest of the world. Do you see how your argument is weak? It is weak because it can be used to support both sides of the argument instead of just yours. Using your argument, WWE wouldn't call the show WWE SmackDown in the rest of the world if they didn't consider that to be the name of the show in the rest of the world. So again it comes down to this. WWE considers the show's name to be WWE Friday Night SmackDown in the United States, while in the rest of the world, WWE considers the show's name to be WWE SmackDown. So if the show is ONLY known in the US as WWE Friday Night SmackDown, then WWE SmackDown is the common name. Its as simple as that. -- Unquestionable Truth -- 01:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose: for the reasons already stated above (Common Name). Wwehurricane1 (talk) 06:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose - article is currently at the common name, changing it to be US-centric goes against the WP:COMMONNAME policy. Have yet to see a good or convincing reason presented for the move to WWE Friday Night SmackDown. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 08:54, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I see that there is a reason for it to be called Friday Night SmackDown since WWE does often refer it as that on their program, but since SmackDown is the more common usage of the programs name, I don't see the reason to move it back. Afro  Gold  - Afkatk 07:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:


 * Comment -- For one, yes WWE is a U.S. based company but that doesn't mean Wikipedia is. WWE does not only broadcast in the United States, but globally in international markets. The common name used by WWE for this program is simply SmackDown (like the brand name), and it is used as the name for the international shows, because in some countries, SmackDown does not air on Friday Night like in the United States. Per WP:RETAIN, we must find common names and spellings for articles and in general usage. Friday Night SmackDown is not how it's known in other countries. The same applies to ECW (WWE) and ECW on Syfy. Notice how these are the US names and how these are the common names. -- <b style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"> T ru c o </b>  <b style="color:black;"> 503 </b> 18:42, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

John Morrison is the Intercontinental Champ, not Rey Mysterio.
During the Smackdown tapings last night Rey Mysterio lost the Intercontinental Title to John Morrison This change should be made in the Champions section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.123.223 (talk) 19:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Until SmackDown airs.... NO...-- Unquestionable Truth -- 19:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I believe it has to air on U.S. television before the change is "official". ArcAngel (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just the first airing, not necessarily in the US (although I think it should be based on US airing). Until it airs, Mysterio will be listed.  TJ   Spyke   21:44, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

New Ring Annoucer Lauren Mayhew
There have been a lot of people that have tried to put her in as the new ring announcer and im not saying she shouldn't be there as i have seen and read the news articles say she was at last Fridays taping but the fact is that she was not on the air at all. So as she has yet to make her debut please re frame from adding her till she is seen on wwe TV.--Dcheagle (talk) 15:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Her official websites confirm that she does in fact work for WWE on the Smackdown brand. There is no reason it can't be added. Due to edit warring, I've opened a discussion for this on WP:PW Wwehurricane1 (talk) 22:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop spreading BS. This is the ONLY info her official site says about WWE: "Catch Lauren Mayhew as the new ring announcer / national anthem singer for the network fights on World Wrestling Entertainment WWE." Where do you see SmackDown ANYWHERE on her site? Also, don't try and claim Twitter or MySpace because neither have been confirmed to be hers and not just fakes (so they are not acceptable)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:WWE_SmackDown&action=edit&section=24

.  TJ   Spyke   23:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said on WP:PW, the Myspace page (which has Smackdown confirmed all over it) is linked from her official site. It is legit.  No one is spreading BS. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 23:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * My Main problem to this is that she was not on last Fridays episode of Smackdown and wwe has not said anything to the fact that she will work on Smackdown im not saying she wont but till she makes her debut on TV and not just at the taping i say that she be removed once again tell the day that shes on the show. Just cause she said on her twitter that she was at the taping doesn't mean that that she was on the show. And one other fact that i would like to point out is that this could be seen as a Spoiler which we all know is not welcome on Wikipedia. I wont remove it myself but I do think consensus needs to be reached before any thing else is done.--Dcheagle (talk) 01:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:PW. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 01:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have seen it And still believe in what i said did you see her on the show last friday cause i know i didn't and don't you find it a little odd that WWE has said nothing about her at all. All Im saying is till we see her on the show and WWE says something about her I say we take the name down tell at least this friday when the next episode is.--Dcheagle (talk) 02:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * A source needs to be presented that she works on the SmackDown brand. One that says she is in WWE only confirms she is in WWE, but one that she is on SD must be presented for her to be added to this one.-- Will C  02:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, a source has been provided. For further information, see the discussion on WP:PW. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 02:33, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * She was NOT the announcer on SmackDown this week . She should not be listed as the announcer until she actually ANNOUNCES on the show. Simple logic that even a kid can understand.  TJ   Spyke   15:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Dcheagle in the fact it shouldn't be added - just yet.-- Celtic + Cross  talk  16:41, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Ahem... Ahem... just a heads up... SmackDown has a new theme song... Now carry on...-- Unquestionable Truth -- 17:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Foundz Itz... Thanks to a simple Myspace Music search of the words "Let It Roll" (which is part the chorus of the new song)... The new theme song is "Let It Roll" by Divide The Day. The sample is up on their Myspace page.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 17:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

i sse that she has been removed and that we had a little more of a talk about this. if she does become the announcer i would be happy to add her so till then.--Dcheagle (talk) 18:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism by those in charge

 * The Cutting Edge
 * Edge
 * 2007 - Present
 * In-ring interview segment.
 * In-ring interview segment.

this should look like this.


 * The Cutting Edge
 * Edge
 * 2007 - 2009
 * In-ring interview segment. Ended when Edge was injured.
 * In-ring interview segment. Ended when Edge was injured.

Edge may comeback. That is likely but as it stands right now he is out on a major injury and with that he is no longer a recurring wrestler on smackdown and with that as well his segment the cutting edge is no longer recurring and until he comes back sometime next year and officially does the cutting edge on smackdown again it should be considered over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.191.119 (talk • contribs)
 * First off, you obviously don't have the slightest clue as to what vandalism is. See Vandalism. Second, sign your posts. Third, so what if he is injured? That doesn't mean the segment is over with, you need a source to back up your claim.  TJ   Spyke   17:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I never said it wouldn't come back. It may very well eventually come back but the fact of the matter is you have it listed as a recurring segment. What is the Key thing about a recurring segment? A recurring segment has recurs. The Cutting edge was a recurring segment. It may eventually be a recurring segment again but of the moment the cutting edge isn't a current segment on smack down. It doesn't mean it's over with altogether but it does mean that it is over right now. You need a source that the cutting Edge is no longer a recurring segment? Why is that? You didn't need a source to prove that the vip lounge was no longer a recurring segment on smackdown. That was inferred with the fact that MVP is no longer an active member of the smackdown roster. Edge is no longer an active member of the smackdown roster. He is the host of the recurring segment known as the cutting edge. Until he comes back to the active roster and once again hosts the cutting edge and then does so on multiple occasions it should look like this:


 * The Cutting Edge
 * Edge
 * 2007 - 2009
 * In-ring interview segment. Ended when Edge was injured.
 * In-ring interview segment. Ended when Edge was injured.

You need a source to prove this then click on the link that says EDGE. It will state that Edge is an inactive member of the Smackdown roster.

My apologies you are right this was not Vandalism. It was a good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if it was misguided or ill-considered, it was not vandalism. None the less it does compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. 70.15.191.119 (talk) 19:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Khali's Kiss Cam is not currently a recurring segment.
Khali is out on injury and until he returns he will be unable to host khali's kiss cam. One key thing about any recurring segment is the fact that it recurs. Until Khali returns and hosts the kiss cam it is not a recurring segment and should say that it ended in 2009. for inormation about khalis injury please refer to the wiki page on the great khali.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Khali70.15.191.119 (talk) 19:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So he will be back we don't need to change it just because he's injured it dosent mean the segment has stopped it just means that while he is away there wont be any segments on smackdown--Dcheagle (talk) 00:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

VIP lounge was not discontinued
It moved with MVP and became a recurring segment of Monday night raw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Raw#Recurring_segments —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.191.119 (talk) 19:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The section is for recurring segments on SMACKDOWN, not Raw. It's not a recurring segment on SmackDown anymore, hence it was discontinued on SmackDown. No offense, but I think even elementary school kids can understand that logic.  TJ   Spyke   19:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The logic is easy to understand but it still stands to be questioned. It no longer takes place on Smackdown but it does take place on Raw. It's the same segment just appearing on another show. If MVP and Marc Henry end up winning the Tag team championships they may hold the VIP Lounge on Smackdown as it is current practice for the Tag Champs to be on both Raw and Smackdown (and sometimes ECW). MVP has in the past held the VIP Lounge on shows that he was not exclusive to. He for instant has held the VIP Lounge on Ecw on scifi. On the 500th episode of smackdown a skit was shown were MVP with Marc Henry were allowing people into a red carpeted roped in area that he acknowledged was the VIP lounge.

Another thing to point out would be that when the rest of the world discontinues something that thing is no longer continued to be produced. Further more important to mention that The VIP Lounge was not infact discontinued and that it was moved to Raw because as an encyclopedia wikipedia should represent the facts instead of the opinions of fans. (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This page is for recurring segments on SmackDown, not recurring segments for WWE. It's not a recurring segment on SmackDown anymore. The VIP Lounge was discontinued as a SmackDown segment. If this was a page for recurring segments in WWE, you are right that we would not list it as discontinued.  TJ   Spyke   01:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not a fan opinion, it's a damn fact. It's not on SD anymore. If the VIP Lounge appears on SD again, it will be changed in the article. If it doesn't, it won't. Period. I have no idea how you're having trouble understanding this, 70.15.191.119. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

It is only a fans opinion. The VIP Lounge is still produced. It has not been discontinued. The cutting edge has currently been discontinued. Khalis kiss cam has currently been discontinued. These two haven't been produced in a while and no one here can provide a source that either segment will be produced again in the future and if you were provided with a source to show that either of the two hosts for those two segments will not be back for a significant time you will only infer that they will do the show again because they have done it in the past offering yet another fan opinion. Further more other segments that actually have been discontinued have not been listed as such (pipers pit, tough enough, Cafe de René, ie.)

VIP Lounge was not discontinued. MVP was not discontinued. VIP Lounge was moved. The same set is used with the same host. It seems the same way as it did while it was being produced on smackdown. VIP Lounge was not discontinued. It was moved. Moved. It's existence didn't cease. It was taken from here and placed over there. It still exists. Moved. It found a new home.70.15.191.119 (talk) 03:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * you just don't get it the VLP Lounge was discontinued on smackdown when MVP moved to raw. It then continued on Raw. as for sources can you provide sources that say they wont continue cause with out them we are not changing a thing. All i can see this doing is driving us nuts trying to explane it to you with you not even listening to what we are saying. At some point we are going to stop listening to you try to explane your reasons as to why we should make these changes as you are wasting are time when we could work on things that really do make these articles better.--Dcheagle (talk) 03:40, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Listen IP, this is not hard to understand and I will say it one last time and then i'm ignoring you: IT WAS DISCONTINUED AS A SMACKDOWN SEGMENT, THEREFORE IT IS NOT A RECURRING SMACKDOWN SEGMENT ANYMORE. Kind of hard for it to continue on SmackDown when the host is not on SmackDown anymore. That's like saying "why not have Piper's Pit listed as still going, no source it won't continue".  TJ   Spyke   03:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Lmao it's funny you act like you have listened in the first place. Leave up the fanboy opinions, make special rules for this but change them for that. We are arguing semantic essentially though you are arguing to keep your inconsistencies. I think it should be mentioned that VIP Lounge has moved because though it current no longer takes place on smackdown (like The cutting EDGE and Khali's kiss cam) it has continued on (unlike the cutting edge and Khalis kiss cam). As late as last smackdown the vip lounge was shown(though not exactly the traditional vip lounge)

Keep the opinions up there. Keep as many facts off here as possible. You find it important to mention that the vip lounge was "discontinued" and unimportant to mention that it simply moved but you find it unimportant to mention that Cafe de René, pipers pit, and tough enough are canceled segments. You have two recurring segments listed as current (khali's kiss cam and the cutting edge) though both host are out indefinitely due to injury recovering from surgery. Edge who's out a torn Achilles tendon (which can take 12-16 months to heal ) and the great Khali who is out on knee surgery. With out knowledge of which knee surgery Khali is undergoing I can't give an acurate time on when he will comeback. If it's an arthoscopy he could be back in 8 weeks but without knowing which surgery he is getting that's up in the air as well. Any other sugery could take much longer than 8 months. If Edge and Khali aren't sent to the developmental territory to get ready for return to active competition Khali might be back this year and Edge could be back in a year and a half. Their segments aren't current. You might offer up a fan opinion how they are current but aren't facts more important.IP70.15.191.119 (talk) 06:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * This will be the last time that i talk about this the reason why we have them listed as such is because we dont have a source that says the've the have stoped if we say they have stopped with out a source it would be speculation which here on wiki is a no no. And for the VIP lounge IT WAS DISCONTINUED AS A SMACKDOWN SEGMENT, THEREFORE IT IS NOT A RECURRING SMACKDOWN SEGMENT ANYMORE.--Dcheagle (talk) 06:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Please. Some of them don't even have a source that they actually happened. I don't recall saying that the VIP Lounge was a current recurring smackdown segment. I did say that a segment called the vip lounge took place on the last smackdown. I did say that it shouldn't be listed as discontinued but that it should say that it moved to raw moved to RAW. I'm sorry if that stretches beyond fan boy opinion but certain facts are important to those who would use this site. Start talking about all the sources you need when that's clear across the board. You have one rule for one thing but a whole other rule for the same thing. You can't list Cafe de René as discontinued because you don't have a source. You list VIP lounge as discontinued because your source only says that MVP went to war though that source makes no mention of the vip lounge. which once again you can't discontinue Cafe de René though readily available are sources that René Duprée is no longer with WWE. You have the Masterlock challenge listed as discontinued while no source is sighted for that knowledge. which once again you can't discontinue Cafe de René though readily available are sources that René Duprée is no longer with WWE. You don't even have a source that shows Cafe de René ever existed. The information with sources about tough enough with sources is in the wiki article on tough enough. 70.15.191.119 (talk) 08:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Can't list Cafe de Renee as discontinued? How about the fact that the host of it hasn't even worked for WWE in several years and hasn't been on SmackDown in an even longer period? Same thing with Masters, he is not on SmackDown anymore (and the Masterlock Challenge ended when Bobby Lashley became the first person to officially break it).  TJ   Spyke   16:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

That makes absolute since yet it doesn't explain why you don't have it listed as discontinued as well as the other few that actually are discontinued. But you do have to make it perfectly clear to the world that the vip lounge has been canceled and you make it clear that it's not important to mention that it moved to another show. With the fact that edge is out injured and has had a surgery that will keep him out for six months (if he's lucky) to a year (if infact he ever fully heals to return to the ring) effectively ending his segment (stopping it from recurring) until he returns (and then until he actually does the segment again).70.15.191.119 (talk) 19:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Pipers pit
Another Question to Add though would be how many times did Pipers Pit take place on smackdown? If it only took place once then I must reference an opinion given in refernce to the VIP Lounge not being a Recurring segment of ECW on scifi: " == Segments == Both Edge's The Cuttting Edge and MVP's VIP Lounge happened on ECW once. Should be mentioned? Brady4mvp (Talk) 16:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, because they are not recurring segments which is what the section is for. If Edge or MVP were to move to the ECW brand and continue their segments, then maybe.  TJ   Spyke   16:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ECW_(WWE)#Segments

If that is the Basis for the VIP Lounge not being listed as a recurring segment on ECW then that should be the basis for Pipers pit not being listed as a recurring segment on smackdown (if infact pipers pit took place only once. Does anyone have a source?) as well as any other segment that took place only once. 70.15.191.119 (talk) 20:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I will have to find a source, but I know he did it more than once on SmackDown. When Piper returned full time back in 2003 (I think) as a member of the SmackDown roster, he did Piper's Pit on a regular basis and even had a little rivalry with Chris Jericho (who had his "Highlight Reel" segment on Raw).  TJ   Spyke   01:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't recall if he did or not but maybe a source could prove it. 70.15.191.119 (talk) 08:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

DirectTV HD channel number
can someone tell me the directTV channel number for smackdown? 98.67.3.115 (talk) 18:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * MyNetworkTV is a local channel (along with Fox, CBS, NBC, etc.), so it varies by market to market (unless something like Comedy Central or CNN, which is the same to every DirecTV customer). This is not a messageboard though.  TJ   Spyke   19:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

2010 Champions
Title                       |Title Holder |Event     |

WWE Intercontinental Champion|Drew McIntyre|TLC Dec.13|

World Heavyweight Champion  |Chris Jericho|Elimination     |Chamber 2/27/10| —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.185.109 (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Mexican transmission is not prominent enough to be on the top of the page
This is in the top of the page "TV Azteca broadcasts the show in Mexico;" i don't think this is promiment enough to be there, there is a international broadcasters below and i think that being there should be enough; this is in the top two "Sky Sports 3 and Sky Sports HD carry it on Friday nights in the United Kingdom and Ireland. (Due to time differences, SmackDown premieres a few hours earlier in Ireland and United Kingdom and a day earlier in Australia, India and Philippines than the United States.)" but is prominent as it premieres earlier than in the states, in Mexico it airs two hours later.201.165.11.254 (talk) 03:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm changing all to highlight only the places where it premieres earlier, and living everything else for the broadcasting list in the bottom of the page, i someone changes it i expect to explain it here, else i'm changing it back.Rov124 (talk) 21:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

why not change episode number when it is aired anywhere?
I guess the title says it all. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 18:43, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It does make sense though I think the reason is for the fact that the show is based in the US, though I do think it is a bit US Centric. Afro  ( DontTazeMeBro ) - Afkatk 20:32, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Change it to present until air
I know SmackDown moves to SyFy on October 1st. But why does it say that that's what channel it is currently located on. It doesn't move till October 1st. It needs to say present on MyNetworkTV until its last episode on that network.-- Nascar   king  21:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Done and changed Syfy to Premiering October 1, 2010.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 21:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.-- Nascar   king  21:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Special episodes
The chart for Smackdown on SYFY needs to have mention of the show airing live (since this is rare for SD) and the preshow Countdown to Smackdown.

Title
Why isn't this at "WWE SmackDown!"? Just because the logo says SMACKDOWN doesn't mean that the official title excludes the exclamation mark. -- 92.21.228.199 (talk) 20:40, 20 November 2010 (UTC)