Talk:Wa State

after reading
after reading this article, i very nearly developed a head amputation habbit. >.< i will re-write this article properly within a few days. LWX — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.195.147 (talk) 12:51, 14 June 2005‎ (UTC)

NPOV: 2nd SAR of Shan State
According to a documentary programme in ATV Hong Kong tonight, the Wa State is now the 2nd SAR of Shan State. THis point is not reflected in the article. I believe the content of this article is mainly outdated, as it did not mention anything about their effort to fight against narcotics and the move to plant plastics. -- Tomchiukc 16:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Kokang people should be Han Chinese
218.102.133.235 18:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Kokang people should be Han Chinese escaped from China during Manchus invasion.
 * Wa people = Va people
 * Both groups came from China.

Flag
I think this flag must be wrong. Wa State use Chinese also, there are more Chinese infomation than English, but I can not find this flag in Chinese site. I think you can find Wa flag in 00:10 of this video http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU2NDk4MjUy.html and you can find flag of state, flag of party, state emblem at http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTMzOTU1NTUy.html--刻意(Kèyì) 00:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Map
I think the map currently used might be incorrect. According to a few other maps, the Wa State controls much more land; in fact, it controls a tiny amount of land on the Thailand border, which isn't shown in this current map. See map, map, map, map. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 11:47, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Borders fixed. Though, the map currently is quite bad in that the marked areas are quite small and it's quite difficult to see anything. Perhaps next version will be centred around Burma, I don't see the need to include all of Indonesia in the map. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 14:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

China Wa relations
OPIUM; Myanmar Tries to Kick Its Habit

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/382585871.html?dids=382585871:382585871&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Aug+10%2C+2003&author=Mitchell+Koss&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=OPIUM%3B+Myanmar+Tries+to+Kick+Its+Habit&pqatl=google

"From the Chinese the Wa have also learned about development. The Wa don't seem to have much in common with the Burmese majority far away in the rest of Myanmar. They don't love the ruling generals. They don't love [Aung San Suu Kyi]. They love China and everything Chinese. In remote areas of Special Region #2 you can see Chinese road builders camped in tents made of plastic sheeting, a sight evocative of images of Chinese building the American railroads 150 years ago. Chinese trucks ply these new -- albeit dirt -- roads. Chinese merchants operate the small shops in the villages. In one village of dirt streets and thatch-roofed structures, we saw dozens and dozens of large new electric streetlight poles, suitable for the downtown of a city. We were told that the town chief had admired similar light poles in China, and a willing Chinese salesperson had then obliged. And behind the scenes, the Chinese government presumably pressures the Wa leadership to abandon opium, just as Chinese intelligence officers quietly track drug traffickers across the Wa region."

Los Angeles Times - Los Angeles, Calif. Author:	Mitchell Koss Date:	Aug 10, 2003 Start Page:	M.2 Section:	Opinion; Part M; Editorial Pages Desk Text Word Count:	1681

Wa demand for autonomous state
http://www.elevenmyanmar.com/politics/3497-founding-of-wa-state-can-spark-confusion-say-political-analysts

07:29, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Recent Reuters articles
I'm not a Wikipedia editor, but I looked up this page after reading this Reuters article a few weeks ago, and thought it was a little sparse, since it doesn't mention tin exports at all. This other Reuters article may also be of use.

I see that you (plural) already have used this Reuters article as a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.153.128.119 (talk) 02:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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Wa territory in China
Do they intent include to future Wa State va people territory in China?--Kaiyr (talk) 08:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Emblem
In the articles of the United Wa State Party and the United Wa State Army, some pictures seem to depict a possible emblem that i believe may be used for Wa State as a whole. Is it possible that somebody might do a little research on this? And if my theory is correct, then it would be nice to incorporate that emblem into the infobox! Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 18:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

There is no Wa State
There is no Wa State in Myanmar. It's only Wa Self-Administered Division. I strongly object this article title, Wa State. This article is inconsistency with current Myanmar constitution.Saimawnkham (talk) 01:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Problematic source
https://www.persecution.org/2021/04/21/myanmars-ccp-backed-wa-state-hostile-place-christians/ This source is problematic since it is from an obviously Christian organization. The fact that the only source for the claim that Christians are being oppressed in Wa State is from a Christian organization is quite questionable. I suggest finding a more neutral source or removing the claim that the source backs up entirely. Tankpiggy18 (talk) 22:03, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Flag of Wa State
I often watch the news on the official WeChat official account of the Wa State. I notice that the flag currently on the Wa State has a red sun rather than a white sun. I think the flag with the white sun may be out of date, or the flag with the white sun is fictional.--Eguersi (talk) 11:58, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Comparable polities
The status of Wa State as a polity is closer to Rojava and the Zapatistas than the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic. Shortly after its founding, the UWSP negotiated a deal with Yangon where they would be left alone by the central authorities (hence their "de facto independence"), so long as they recognised Burmese sovereignty (therefore avoiding Yangon's disdain for separatism). This much can be found reliably sourced in this article. Calling Wa State an "unrecognised state" is misleading because it does not claim to be an independent state, nor is it seeking recognition as one. It's the equivalent of calling Niue an unrecognised state because it is de facto independent but accepts New Zealander sovereignty. Yue 🌙 00:20, 11 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Please read the above and also this paragraph from List of states with limited recognition:
 * Some subnational entities and regions function as de facto independent states, with the central government exercising little or no control over their territory. These entities, however, do not explicitly claim to be independent states and are therefore not included. Examples include Galmudug and Puntland in Somalia, Gaza in Palestine, the Kurdistan Region in Iraq, Rojava in Syria, the [sic] Wa State in Myanmar, and the areas under control of the Houthi movement in Yemen.
 * Wikipedia never unilaterally makes the judgement call as to whether a polity is a sovereign state or not. This is done by independent reliable sources, and Wikipedia is merely a reflection of them. If Wa State was in a similar situation as unrecognised and partially recognised states as your edits imply, reliable sources would describe it as such at not as a "de facto independent state". Yue 🌙 01:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

A bit more on the demographics?
The text mentions that there used to be many Chinese people in the Wa State, but it doesn't say which ethnicity actually constitutes the majority or plurality of the population and what the percentages of different ethnicities are, or at least what they were in the territories that the Wa State currently controls during the latest census. Given the name of the state, one would assume the majority to be ethnic Wa, but the article says only that the majority of the leadership are such. More information is necessary. 62.73.69.121 (talk) 05:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)