Talk:Waipoua Forest

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I have a number of resources to contribute here: - A video of the forest, including specific coverage of Waipoua Forest. - A geocache right there (w/ lots of useful information), as well as at two other nearby locations of relevance. I therefore propose the following inclusions under external links: Under ==See also== Faber Optimé (talk) 08:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Look Out Waipoua! - A nearby Faber Optimé geocache in the Waipoua Forest.
 * Northland Secrets Early Rizers Mix - A short Faber Optimé YouTube film about Tāne Mahuta and the Northland region.
 * God of the Forest - A Faber Optimé geocache at Tāne Mahuta.
 * Te Matua Ngahere - A nearby Faber Optimé geocache at Te Matua Ngahere.
 * Oppose. As has been explained to you by several people at User talk:Faber Optimé, you should not be linking to your own work, and all those who have reviewed your videos to date appear to have agreed that they are not suitable as links. Geocaching links are also not suitable- gadfium 20:20, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I was going to move the Warawara forest reference in the Waipoua Forest page to a new Warawara forest page - they are completely separate forests LawrieM (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Re-write needed
Can someone please edit this article. It is full of non sequiturs, poor grammar and rather childish commentary.122.59.209.73 (talk) 10:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hatnote
This topic is to discuss the creation of a disambiguation page or the addition of a hatnote to direct users looking for the article for the spider genus of the same name. I'd like to keep the hatnote in for now, because it's much easier to erase the hatnote from one article than to have an entire disambig page deleted (unless you happen to be a user with that power).

The page Waipoua currently redirects to Waipoua Forest, but there is an article about the spider genus of the same name on the page Waipoua (spider) and no way to direct users to that page (or any indication that the page even exists). There will inevitably be people looking for the article about the spider found in this forest, so the question is whether to create a disambiguation page at "Waipoua" or a hatnote on this page.

"Waipoua Forest" is the primary topic here, but I don't think creating a disambiguation page is necessary. See WP:Hatnotes are cheap. In fact, I think far more users will be looking for the article on the forest rather than the spider, so using a disambig page will make these people go through an additional step to find it. Adding a hatnote is my vote because I feel that it's the least disruptive way to direct the few people looking for the spider page, but I'm not an expert on the rules by any means. Sesame honey  tart  14:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I suggest simply changing the page Waipoua from a redirect page to a disambiguation page - linking to both Waipoua Forest and Waipoua (spider). Ross Finlayson (talk) 14:56, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I suppose I don't understand why the hatnote is a problem in the first place. If it seems invasive, I can move the spider to its name and add a hatnote there directing users to the forest page, but it depends on how many people will type in "Waipoua" looking for "Waipoua Forest"? Sesame  honey  tart  15:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The issue is that nobody is likely to type in "Waipoua Forest" if they are looking for a spider. Therefore, a hatnote pointing to Waipoua (spider) doesn't make much sense on the Waipoua Forest page.  However, it's possible that someone might type in "Waipoua" if they are looking for a spider - or for the forest.  That's why I suggest replacing the contents of the Waipoua page - removing the redirect tag, and simply replacing the contents with a disambiguation list (to both Waipoua Forest and Waipoua (spider). Ross Finlayson (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I have modified the hatnote to address the redirect specifically. If this is not satisfactory, I have no problem if my change is reverted.- gadfium 21:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)