Talk:Waldstein (mountain range)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv (talk) 03:48, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Waldstein (mountain range) → Waldstein &mdash; as this is the primary topic and Waldstein its redirect. A review of the dab pages - Waldstein (disambiguation) and de:Waldstein on both English and German Wikipedias shows no other subject titled "Waldstein" - the others are all compounds. Bermicourt (talk) 07:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Waldstein (disambiguation) lists many meanings, and how well known is the mountain range in Bavaria? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but all of them are compounds e.g. "Forename Waldstein" or "Waldstein Castle" which disambiguate themselves and don't clash with "Waldstein". There are no other "Waldstein" that I can see on this or German Wiki. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:46, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose the "House of Waldstein" is also termed just "Waldstein". 76.66.194.212 (talk) 05:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. But it's a different title. Primary topics should not be secondary titles or shorthand. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:03, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That is not true. Primary topics are often secondary titles, e.g. Einstein or USA. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Nom vote. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:03, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose barring any indication that one of the ambiguous topics is primary. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose The mountain range topic gets only about a handful of page views per day. While the page views of most of the other uses tend to get only about a handful per month (if that), the Sonata gets much more than that. While its actual title is Piano Sonata No. 21 (Beethoven) which gets thousands of views per month, the redirect at Waldstein Sonata gets about as many monthly "views" as the mountain range, clearly indicating the mountain range does not meet WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria.  The fact that "Waldstein" is only a "partial title" match for the redirect, and not a match at all for the real title of the article, is irrelevant to primary topic determination, which depends entirely on likelihood of search.   --Born2cycle (talk) 00:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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