Talk:Walter Butler, 16th Earl of Ormonde

Should we be calling him by a posthumous title he never held in his lifetime? john k (talk) 00:44, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strictly speaking you're correct. I wouldn't object to a move to "Walter Butler, 16th Earl of Ormonde (de jure)". Is that too unwieldy? Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That is unwieldy. Walter Butler, I assume, is ambiguous.  I'm not sure what the best solution would be. john k (talk) 14:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)