Talk:Walter Rhodes (murderer)

Walter never murdered anyone
Calling Walter Rhodes a murderer when he never killed someone has to stop. Writing murderer after his name is wrong and unethical, so delete that and stop redirekt to his name on wikipedia. Want to tell the story of Sonia and Jesse, please do so, but do njot redirect to Walter Rhodes as a murderer because he is not. All evidence and ballistic reports as well as witnesses confirms this WalterRhodesJr (talk) 04:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to take the redirect to WP:Redirects for discussion, for renaming or deletion: I've offered help with this at your user talk page. Wikishovel (talk) 05:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Notoriety
Is this individual, or the circumstances at hand really of enough notoriety to warrant a wiki article, such that WP:NOTE is adhered to? I don't believe wikipedia is intended as a database of any and all crimes committed. Lostsandwich (talk) 08:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Update, a clearer outline is seen at WP:CRIME
 * Here are some important points:
 * A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person.
 * And when a separate article can be created:
 * ''The victim of the crime is a renowned national or international figure, including, but not limited to, politicians or celebrities; or
 * The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role.''
 * I don't believe this individual meets either of these. I might suggest a notability tag asking for further participation. Lostsandwich (talk) 08:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It is evident that Walter Rhodes should not be on Wikipedia as he if refered to here. The page has to be deleted. If the page belonging to Jesse Tafero has his name in it is one thing, but if you want to re-direct to anything in Walter Rhodes name, you have to have my permission. I have his power of attorney after leading the investigation of his case. You can read all about it on https://www.walterrhodes.com
 * A request has officially been made to have his conviction overturned, which is now pending. For your information regarding Jesse Tafero, here is what is true.
 * In 1976, to be culpable for Felony Murder (the Felony Murder Doctrine) one must have committed one of four felonies which resulted in the death of someone: Robbery, Rape, Kidnap, Arson. No other felonies matter.
 * Prosecutor Satz chose Robbery. You don't have to commit the robbery. You just have to be with someone who did a robbery and then someone died. Only then are you guilty of felony murder.
 * In this case the kidnap occurred AFTER the murders so Satz couldn't use that. He came up with the plan or scheme that Tafero, who shot the two officers, and taking the trooper's gun AFTER he was killed was a robbery.
 * The fact is the robbery was NOT a robbery. To rob someone the robbery statute states that for a robbery to be committed the victim must be put in FEAR.
 * The AUTOPSY report on Officer Black shows he ASPIRATED blood. Walter Rhodes reported in his sworn statements directly after the murders that he saw blood dripping out of Blacks mouth before he fell to the pavement. That is aspirating blood. He died quickly.
 * Tafero took his gun AFTER he was dead, therefore Black could not have been the victim of robbery. It was a theft.
 * Courts have ruled that the murders were committed for the purposes of trying to escape -- NOT to rob the trooper of his gun!
 * No robbery no felony murder. Tafero, if correct charges had been filed would have been given life without parole, Sonia Jacobs would have been given life with the possibility of parole after serving 25 years, and Mr. Rhodes would have been acquitted since he never shot anyone, did not rob anyone, was forced under gun point to drive Tafero and Jacobs or be killed himself.
 * Walter Rhodes is NOT culpable for felony murder and is therefore INNOCENT of murder.
 * Tafero was wrongfully executed since there was no felony murder because he did NOT rob Officer Black of his gun when alive. He could only be sentenced to life in prison. Satz had promise his voters to ask for the death penalty in order to be elected as Broward State Attorney in 1976. End of story. WalterRhodesJr (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The veracity of the charge is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Lostsandwich (talk) 20:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Meaning what? He hold no responsibility for the crime discussed and should not be associated with Tafero as a murderer. Rhodes never killed anyone, end of story. Hence, (murderer) is inaccurate, Chief State Witness is correct if you wish to refer Rhodes with anything. WalterRhodesJr (talk) 20:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest going back and reading some of the linked style guides, and reviewing WP:NOT, WP:COIE, and WP:WQ. You are talking past every response. Lostsandwich (talk) 21:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Listen, I am not going to entertain inaccurate information on Wikipedia, his name should not be associated with murderer. Nor should he be linked or anything else. Get rid of the false information please. It serves no purpose, he isn´t a murderer, so that has to be deleted. WalterRhodesJr (talk) 04:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Earlier you wrote "A request has officially been made to have his conviction overturned, which is now pending."
 * Question: What is the status of the official request? Gjs238 (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It will take time until that happens. We have no answer get. WalterRhodesJr (talk) 10:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It would seem that once Walter Rhodes is exonerated the modifier in the page title could be changed? Gjs238 (talk) 13:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * His exoneration has nothing to do with calling him a murderer, he never killed anyone. Thus, problem remains. He cannot be called a murderer. WalterRhodesJr (talk) 08:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yet he stands convicted of murder. Gjs238 (talk) 12:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Apparently you know nothing about the case and only listen to what I call "noise," gossip that haven´t been proven by actual facts. The true nature of this case is that he was forced to self-convict on an unlawful plea arrangement so that the true culprits, Tafero and Jacobs could be convicted. I think you should take a look at who I am and what I have done in the past and why I even decided to investigate the case.
 * https://www.walterrhodes.com/criminal-investigation/lead-investigator WalterRhodesJr (talk) 14:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)