Talk:Waltham Watch Company/Archives/2013

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The text posted under Waltham Watch Company is indeed my own, based on my own research in the readily available numerous literature existing on Waltham. I am very much looking forward to any further help and assistance in further establishing Waltham's brilliant history. Best regards Claude Girardin

Well, the ostensible source of this text seems to disagree:


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 * UNAUTHORIZED USE, PRINTING, OR COPYING IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED

Not that I distrust you, but we're going to need a bit more proof. The text you posted seems to be a hacked up version of the website in question, with at least one sentence lifted from here. -- Hadal 20:19, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Other possible plageries
I have seen the sentence beginning with "Not only the American Horology but also the world..." located in section "American Watch Company" on several web pages about Waltham Watch Company. It may have been lifted from here but someone may want to rewrite it or delete it or I will.

The changes I have made have all been in my own words.

Darkpr (talk) 06:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)drkpr

Merge proposal
According to this page, Waltham Precision Instruments Company is currently doing business as Waltham Aircraft Clock Corporation. Is there a reason that the latter should have its own Wikipedia page? I don't know enough about the structure of the corporation to say definitively, but am tentatively proposing that Waltham Aircraft Clock Corporation be merged with Waltham Watch Company. Cnilep (talk) 21:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Waltham Precision Instruments Company does not exist anymore, as it is a defunct company, the business of which has been taken over by Waltham Aircraft Clock Corporation, just as the watch business has been taken over by Waltham International SA, Switzerland.

This is the reason for my starting the article in the first place.

claude (talk) 14:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So just to clarify, Waltham Aircraft Clock Corporation and Waltham Watch Company are separate organizations, right? Cnilep (talk) 15:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ...right? Cnilep (talk) 15:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Waltham Aircraft Clock Corporation is an entity by itself, which has bought off the Clock manufacturing remnants of the now defunct Waltham Watch Company. I do not feel that both articles should be merged. Also, whether some sentences might have been inspired, copied or taken out of an existing text or not, the facts remain and are a significant part of the horological history. I would appreciate if someone would try and spend sometime trying to find out some more references, like excerpts of the Waltham Registry of Commerce, and infos about the previous two Clock sompanies in Waltham. Thanking you in advance. For my part, I shall contact the Waltham Aircraft Clock Corporation, asking them for further historic evidence. Please don't shoot at the pianist  claude (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Dates on name changes
Article states that the name Waltham Watch Company was only used from 1925, but this 1916 advert already uses that name. --NJR_ZA (talk) 13:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

From 1906-1923 It was also known as the Waltham Watch Company. I obtained this from American Watchmaking, A technical History of the American Watch Industry 1850-1930 by Michael C. Harrold which was a supplement to the bulletin of the National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors, Number 14. The author cites two references which I do not have access to: Charles W. Moore, Timing a Century (Harvard University Press, Cambridge, MA, 1945) and Henry G. Abbott, A Pioneer (reprinted Adams Brown Co., Exeter, NH, 1968). If anyone has access to these and wants to validate feel free but it should be cleared up that 1906-1923 they were Waltham Watch Company then 1923-1925 Waltham Watch & Clock Company then 1925-1957 they reverted back to Waltham Watch Company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.255.79.10 (talk) 23:05, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Waltham Fate and Defunct
I would like to share my point of view about Waltham Watch Company and its brand "Waltham" that today - as the article correctly mentioned - is owned by Waltham International SA, a company born as subsidiary and today still manufacturing Waltham branded watches. Technically, it could be a right intepretation writing that the company closed (just its US operational activities) in 1957. But, in reality, the Company never died or defunct: simply, it moved its activities from a country to another. So, it wouldn't be correct to provide a more precise info, changing "it went out of business" (fate) and "1957/1994" (Defunct)? --Waltham International SA 14:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waltham Watches (talk • contribs)