Talk:Wang (surname)/Archive 1

How do we know which surname is most common in the world?
Can someone list a source for that first statement "Wang is the most common surname in the world".... ? How do we know it's the most common? Who says so? Spettro9 (talk) 16:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Because Wang is a fumnny name and desurvs an accolade —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.73.226 (talk) 12:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * As the most common surname in the world's most populous country, which happens to have a culture with an incredibly small number of surnames to begin with, the claim seems highly likely to be correct. On the other hand, you're right to want a source that's actually crunched the numbers. — LlywelynII  13:05, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Romanization
What is a "Cantonese Romanization"? Did you mean latinisation? The translation into the latin alphabet?
 * I'm not that person, but obviously, yes. Romanization means tranliteration (not translation) into Latin letters. Eg. Wong, cheungsam, Hong Kong, and I believe Peking are all Cantonese romanizations. Spettro9 (talk) 16:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Surname pages
There is a proposal to create a precedent that names are not encyclopedic. Articles about names regularly show up on various deletion pages and are summarily deleted. Perhaps - since you've been working on an article about a name, you hold a different opinion that you'd like to express. Please do: Deletion policy/names and surnames SchmuckyTheCat 17:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

See Talk:Wang
See Talk:Wang for discussions before the page was split. &mdash; Instantnood 14:25, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

they ask for money but what if material been edited for deception W18 (talk) 16:24, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomadic Wangs
Some Wang clans are descended from nomads who were given "wang" as surname by chinese emperors. 128.147.38.10 15:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

The expansion of this page
I just deleted the info on how many per cent of famous Chinese have the surname Wang, I don't think we should burden this article with this kind of trivia, which obviously come from the almost completely unsourced article in Chinese Wikipedia. What is the next step, adding info on blood groups?--Niohe 22:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with % or blood groups, except that "famous Chinese" is automatically a nebulous and unuseful concept. — LlywelynII  13:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject Anthroponymy
Template added by wikiproject member: Rosiestephenson (talk) 01:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Expanding beyond Far East Asia
I was wondering how this article should be expanded, since Wang, with the variation form Vang both pronounced in X-SAMPA /vaNk/, is a surname used in the Faroe Islands, but its origin is Denmark. I don't know if there are really any people famous enough for a Wikipedia article, but one example could be Faroese runner Sam Vang. But in any case, I feel like it's worth mentioning, that this surname exists here too, I'm just not sure how to do it. Mulder1982 (talk) 22:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But Vang is Vang, worth mentioning at Vang. — LlywelynII  13:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Second Most Common?
I believe Wang ranks second to Li in China, and the whole world. Facial (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You'd be wrong. There have been various surveys that rank the top three (王, 李, and 张) and in fact our page on list of common Chinese surnames uses one, but the NCIIC actually counted up the whole country and it's Wang. — LlywelynII  13:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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<!-- 姬姓王氏还可以被细分为三个分支：
 * 周武王的弟弟毕公高封于毕国，春秋时，他的裔孙毕万做了晋国的司徒，功高位重，被封于魏，战国时，魏国、韩国、赵国三方瓜分了晋国. 后裔中最著名的是战国时代的“四君子”之一的信陵君魏无忌. 秦国灭了魏国以后，魏无忌的孙子魏卑子逃到山东泰山，汉朝初年，魏卑子奉诏进京做官，被封为兰陵君. 当时因其是王家之后，便称其为“王家”，从此便以王为姓. 这支姬姓王氏大约有2200年的历史了.


 * 第二分支源于春秋初年周平王的后裔. 周平王在位51年（前770年-前720年），太子早夭，周平王驾崩之后，由其孙姬赤继位，但姬赤的胞弟姬林夺了王位，即周桓王. 姬赤出奔晋国，子孙以其曾为王者而改姓王. 一直到唐朝，这支姬姓王氏一直生活在山西临猗一带，史称河东临猗王姓，这支姬姓王氏大约有2700年的历史了.


 * 第三分支源于周考王（前441年-前426年在位）的胞弟桓公揭之后. 桓公揭封于王城（旧址在今天的河南洛阳王城公园一带）. 他的封地虽小，但处于东周王城的西部，历史上称其为西周桓公. 周朝灭亡以后，子孙迁到河南伊川和临汝，以居于王城而改姓王，后被称为王城王氏，这支姬姓王氏大约有2400年的历史了.

妫姓王氏
奉虞舜为祖先的妫姓王是氏王姓中重要的一支. 战国七雄之一的齐国被秦国所灭之后，项羽封齐王田建的长孙田安为济北王，随后项羽被刘邦所灭，田安也随之失去了王位，子孙遂改姓王. 这支王姓以北海和青州为郡望，一直以山东原齐国的土地为活动区域，有2300年的历史了.

外族改姓
王姓中融入了大量的外族血液，还有许多后来改姓或赐姓王的，比较著名的有：

汉朝时候的匈奴人、西羌钳耳氏族、南北朝时候的高丽拓王氏族、鲜卑族的乌丸人、隋唐时期西域月支国的胡人、唐朝回鹘族阿布思氏族、契丹人、金朝时女真人中的完颜氏、耶律氏、夹谷氏、北宋西夏国党项人、元朝的蒙古人、清朝时满州八旗的完颜氏、伊喇氏等氏族.

这些外族王姓随着时间的推延和经过通婚等，多数同化为中国北方的汉族王姓.

分布和迁徙
王姓在先秦、汉晋时期一直以华北地区为主要的活动地区，发展十分迅速. 隋唐时期王姓各派除了向内地迁徙之外，最主要的事件是河南固始人王审知南迁到福建，建立了闽国，成为五代十国之一，是福建王姓的总开山鼻祖，历史上被称为开闽王氏. 明朝永乐年间，这支王姓开始进入台湾.

宋朝时期
宋朝时期（960年-1279年），王姓人口约590万，约占当时全国人口的7.7%，为宋朝第一大姓. 王姓第一大省是山东省，约占全国王姓人口的14.7%，占山东省总人口的12.7%. 在全国的分布主要集中在山东、河北、四川、河南、山西，这五省的王姓约占全国王姓总人口的55%. 其次分布于江西、陕西、浙江，这三省的王姓又集中了25.5%. 全国形成了陕晋冀豫鲁、赣浙以及四川三大块王姓人口的聚集地区.

明朝时期
明朝时期（1368年-1644年），王姓人口约620万，约占全国人口的6.7%，仍然为第一大姓. 宋元明600年间，全国王姓人口的净增长率为20%，王姓人口的增长比全国人口的增长速度要缓慢得多，600年间王姓人口总增长仅为5%，净增加30万.

在全国的分布主要集中于浙江（13.7%）、江苏（13.1%）、山东（13.1%），这三省王姓大约占王姓总人口的40%. 其次分布于江西和山西，这两省又集中了17%. 浙江一跃成为王姓第一大省. 中国南方王姓在这600年间有了发展，广东、广西、福建的王姓人口已经大大超过了宋朝. 而宋朝时的王姓大省河北、河南和四川，在当时的比率已经下降了近一半. 宋元明时期，王姓的分布总格局变化比较大，其人口主要向东南方向迁移，而四川地区王姓人口主要向湖北、湖南、广东、广西等方向迁移. 全国范围内又重新形成了赣浙苏皖和鲁豫晋冀两大块王姓人口聚集的地区.

当代
当代的王姓人口已经达到了8892万，为全国第二大姓（第一大姓为李），约占全国人口的7.4%. 从明朝至今的600年间，王姓人口由620万激增到近8900万，接近14倍. 明朝的平均人口接近9300万，当代人口如果按12亿计算的话，增长了近13倍. 王姓人口的增长速度略高于全国人口的增加速度.

近1000年中，王姓人口增长率曲线呈现出“V”字型态势.

目前，王姓人口在全国的分布主要集中于河南、山东、四川、河北四省，大约占王姓总人口的36%. 其次分布于辽宁、安徽、江苏、黑龙江、浙江、陕西和湖北，这七省的王姓又集中了33%.

河南居住了王姓人口的11.5%，为王姓第一大省，占省总人口的10%.

全国形成了以长江为界的高比率北方王姓区和低比率南方王姓区，而北方区又以太行山为界，东部为高密度王姓区，西部为低密度王姓区.

在近600年间，王姓人口流动的程度和方向与宋元明期间有很大区别，由东部向华中、华北的回迁成为主流.

分布密度
王姓人口密度最高的地区在黑龙江、吉林、辽宁、内蒙古东部、河北东部、山东、江苏北部、安徽东北部. 这些地区每平方公里的王姓人口达21人以上，中心地区达30人以上. 每平方公里21以上的地区占国土总面积的12.3%，王姓人口约3007万. 每平方公里12.6-21人的地区占国土总面积的19.9%，王姓人口约2904万. 每平方公里4.2-12.6人的地区占国土总面积的33.8%，王姓人口约2660万. 每平方公里4.2人以下的地区占国土总面积的34%，王姓人口约321万.

分布频率
王姓人口的分布很广，但不均衡.

黑龙江、吉林、辽宁、内蒙古东部和中部、河北东部、山东、河南北部、新疆喀什地区是王姓最常见的地区，其覆盖面积只有国土总面积的19.8%，王姓占当地人口的比例在9.2%以上，有的高达16.2%.

长江以北和青海西宁以东的其他地区，也是王姓的常见区域，王姓在人群中的比例在6.9%-9.2%之间，覆盖面积是国土总面积的19%.

长江以南及新疆东北部和西部，是王姓人口相对较少的地区，王姓在人群中的频率在2.3%-6.9%之间，覆盖面积是国土总面积的34.6%.

青海湖以西的其他地区、广东西部、广西东部、海南是王姓分布稀少的地区，王姓在人群中的频率不足2.3%，覆盖面积是国土总面积的26.6%.

血型特征
王姓人群的血型分布总体的情况（总人口数按中华人民共和国第四次人口普查数据计算，共计8892万）为：
 * O型：2784万，占31.3%
 * A型：2530万，占28.5%
 * B型：2716万，占30.5%
 * AB型：862万，占9.7%

黑龙江、吉林、辽宁、内蒙古东部、山东大部、江苏北部、安徽东北部是王姓最集中的地区. 这些地区的面积约占中国国土面积的12.3%，有王姓人口3007万，约占全国王姓人口的33.8%. 其中，O型血897万，A型血831万，B型血970万，AB型血309万.

河南、河北西部、山西大部、陕西大部、甘肃大部、宁夏大部、四川大部、湖北北部、山东西部、安徽南部、江苏南部、浙江北部是王姓的常见地区. 这些地区的面积约占中国国土面积的19.9%，王姓人口2904万，约占全国王姓人口的32.6%. 其中，O型血923万，A型血832万，B型血874万，AB型血275万.

内蒙古中西部、陕西北部、山西西北部、甘肃西部、青海东部、四川西部、云南、贵州、湖南、江西、福建、湖北南部、浙江南部、广东西部、新疆西北部是王姓分布的一般地区. 这些地区的面积约占中国国土面积的33.8%，王姓人口2660万，约占全国王姓人口的29.9%. 其中，O型血857万，A型血774万，B型血780万，AB型血249万.

青海湖以西其他地区、广西、海南、广东西部. 这些地区的面积约占中国国土面积的34%，王姓人口321万，约占全国王姓人口的3.6%. 其中，O型血107万，A型血93万，B型血92万，AB型血29万-->

(Btw, if that's just the Zh.wiki's article on the Wangs, we don't even need to keep it here. There's a link on the page already.) — LlywelynII  13:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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