Talk:Wanyan Liang

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I think the subject should be translated as "Prince Hailing of Jin" (金海陵王) in English. He was demoted from Emperor to Prince right after his death. On the other hand, there was another Prince Hailing in Southern Qi Dynasty. He is translated as "Prince of Hailing" in English. I think "Prince Hailing of Qi" (齊海陵王) is a better translation.--Jiejunkong 22:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

support!KJ (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 16 April 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved. No opposition after a full listing, and seems reasonable. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:47, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Prince Hailing of Jin → Wanyan Liang – The name "Prince Hailing of Jin" is a misnomer. "Hailing" referred to a princedom under the Jin dynasty that was posthumously awarded to Wanyan Liang. Therefore, he should be referred to as the "Prince of Hailing (of the Jin dynasty)" – in the same way as we refer to Prince William as the "Duke of Cambridge (of the United Kingdom)" instead of "Duke Cambridge". More accurately, it should be the "Prince Yang of Hailing (of the Jin dynasty)" (海陵煬王) because the posthumous name (諡號) given to him was "Yang" (煬). However, since this title is too long and complicated, I suggest we simply refer to him by his sinicised personal name "Wanyan Liang". Alternatively, we can use his Jurchen personal name "Wanyan Digunai". Either of these will do. As a side note, the Chinese Wikipedia uses "Wanyan Liang". LDS contact me 07:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Support per nominator. "Wanyan Liang" and "Prince of Hailing" will both work, but the latter is ambiguous, so the former is better. Oppose "Wanyan Digunai" - I've never seen this combination used in academic literature, although "Digunai" by itself is as commonly used as Wanyan Liang. -Zanhe (talk) 20:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


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