Talk:War in the Vendée

Peasants position worsened...
Is there a citation on the recently added claim that the "...peasants perceived that their position had worsened, not improved since the fall of the Ancien Régime"? The way this is written, it must mean worsened economically, not in terms of the issues over religion. I'm leaving it, because it seems likely enough, but a citation would be good. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:07, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

POV
This section, added a few hours ago under the heading "Aftermath", by User:Warzybok, strikes me as almost pure POV. I've moved it here for discussion; someone is welcome to rewrite it in a more neutral manner (if that leaves anything) and re-add it to the article. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:59, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)


 * Less than 6 months after the Genocide in the Vendee, Robespierre and hundreds of Jacobin Club members were executed in what is called The White Terror. It is a generally accepted fact that the events of the Vendee had tremendous impact on this coup, that would see the Thermidorian Government rise to power. Robespierre had simply caused to much damage to the face of the revolution, and the last victim of his reign of terror would be none other than himself. Vendee is but one factor that led to the fall of the French Revolution, but it was a very critical one. The French people had initially joined the revolution when they saw the king as a threat to their rights, events in the Vendee and elsewhere illustrated that the Jacobins were no longer any better.

It appears to be more historical interpretation, rather than point of view. I personally havent read about a direct link between the Vendee Uprisings and the Thermidorians. I would be inclinded to disagree with it. The Jacobin terror was just as present in Paris and everywhere else as it was in the Vendee. Although the Thermidor Coup is seen a part of the Revolution rather than the fall of the revolution. BadSeed Dec 20 2004

Inconsistency?
I’m confused. On this page it says that the First Battle of Châtillon was a great Republican victory in that “Jean Baptiste Kléber arrived from Mainz with a veteran army to suppress the rising. At the First Battle of Châtillon, southeast of Cholet, he inflicted one of the first defeats on the insurgents.”

But on the Wikipedia page for the “First Battle of Châtillon” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Ch%C3%A2tillon it says “The First Battle of Châtillon (5 July 1793) during the War in the Vendée saw the Vendean Royalists defeat a French Republican raiding force led by François-Joseph Westermann. The rebel Catholic and Royal Army virtually destroyed the Republican column, only Westermann and a few hundred cavalrymen escaping the disaster.”

So who won the battle? The Republicans lead by Jean Baptiste Kléber or the Royalists defeating Westerman? What am I not understanding?

VFF0347 (talk) 16:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC) VFF0347 May 21, 2018


 * The entire war is confusing. I have come across so many conflicting articles on it it's not even funny. It seems both sides have a different POV. (Although I do believe that many of the Republican views are exaggerated; part of their old propaganda, if you know what I mean.) Oh well. I've been writing about one of the Generals, François de Charette, and every way I turn I find something contradictory in all the accounts I find about him. I've gotten to the point that I just write one of the versions and leave it as is. Accuracy is next to impossible. Mlle. Renée Marie (talk) 13:01, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Films
Note that the film makers and the awards they have received and the film festivals where they got prizes are all a sea of red. It seems pretty clear that these are obscure anti-Revolution accounts of the Roman Catholic side of the story. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  13:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Antienlightenment?
Should we describe the term "antienlightenment" to describe the rebel forces? This carries a lot of assumptions. Royalist could be the least problematic term. PatGallacher (talk) 17:33, 7 June 2023 (UTC)