Talk:Ward Weaver III

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OK... this article needs major work. While the events surrounding the murders of Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis are correct, as far as I can tell (I grew up about two miles from the apartment complex where the murders took place, and am very familiar with the story); I cannot vouch for the accuracy of Weaver's prior history. Given the nature of the subject matter, we need citations for any derogatory claim--even for a fellow as unpleasant as Weaver. There's plenty of literature on Weaver to be found; the case was heavily covered in the press (both in Oregon and nationally). --EngineerScotty 04:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Good points, Scotty. Finding citations should not be hard. The Portland Tribune was all over that case, with two reporters (Janine Robben and Jim Redden) on it from early on, and their web site is very complete and searchable. There's also a book, written by a private investigator involved in the case (Ashley's step-grandmother.) I listed it in "external links," but the Trib and KATU news have called its accuracy into question regarding some details. I adjusted the lead, because even if it's accurate, I couldn't find sources that quite match what was said here. If sources can be found, change it back. -Pete 08:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Children
I've had some trouble finding who Ward Weaver's children are. So far I have found three children. More articles are collected at http://roadtoanaphe.3.forumer.com/a/ashley-pond-miranda-gaddis_post553.html -Pingveno 21:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Alexander Jeremiah Weaver, 17 at the time (http://web4.co.clackamas.or.us/mrm/1246.html)
 * Francis Weaver, 19 year old son who reported the murder (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0208/27/lt.11.html)
 * Mallori Weaver(http://www.oregonlive.com/special/girls/index.ssf?/special/oregonian/girls/092304_plea.html)

Details

 * Where was Miranda Gaddis's body found? On this page it states that she was found in a bag.  According to the article Miranda Gaddis and Ashley Pond her body was found in a box.
 * I remember Weaver coming forward to talk on some nationwide news show, though I can't remember which one, and saying that he was a (prime?) suspect in the murder on Ashley and Miranda. He claimed to have come forward so that he could "prove" his innocence.
 * I believe Weaver tried to claim insanity multiple times to escape charges.~KittyKat1987~ 06:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * To answer in order:
 * One girl's body was found under a concrete slab Weaver had poured, the other was in a shed on his property.
 * That was the Anna Song interview currently in the article. (And I suspect that if he wasn't aleading suspect before that statement, his importance definitely rose afterwards.)
 * That wouldn't surprise me.
 * This article also omits some details which make these murders particularly notable:
 * Ward Weaver killed both girls & disposed of their bodies in a manner that was uncomfortably similar to his own father's crime -- see "Weaver allegations eerily resemble dad’s case", Portland Tribune, 23 August 2002.
 * The media circus of August 25: every television station in the Portland area promised hourly updates, which by early afternoon became one continuous coverage. And the Friday prior, when some onlookers taped a banner over the concrete slab claiming that Ashley Pond's body was beneath. (Here it is, over 5 years later, & that episode of yellow-journalism is more vivid for me than the facts of the actual crime.) -- llywrch (talk) 21:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Merge
Someone else added the merge tag in Miranda Gaddis and Ashley Pond, but it makes perfect sense to me to merge that article here. The victim of a crime is seldom interestin in itself. // habj 13:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Some citations to incorporate
Below are citations, to be incorporated as inline citations in the article. -Pete (talk) 20:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * featured on Oxygen TV network:






 * Tribune lists case first in its list of accomplishments in first 5 years:






 * son Alex parole violation






 * Law enforcement visits Weaver nine times, takes six months to seek search warrant:


 * Weaver releases autopsy to press before trial. Also notes father's similar crime.


 * Judge sends Ward Weaver, accused of killing 2, to hospital instead of to trial


 * Interview with book's author