Talk:Warriors (novel series)/Dec 2007

Font Size
Okay, this may be an obvious question but does anyone know how to make font size larger? ClawClaw 17:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Where? Do you mean by increasing the zoom on your browser window?  Or do you mean in terms of making section headers?  Or something else?  Metros 18:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess on my browser... ClawClaw 16:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * All you do is click on the tab all the way at the top of your page that says 'view', click text size, and choose your size. ~ Bella   Swan  01:16, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

WTF!?!
The Firestar's Quest Article was deleted! 4.239.216.218 22:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well yeah, it has been for a little while now. But I don't remember if I was around to witness it being deleted. So for that, does anyone know why?  §ροττεδςταr (Talk 22:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Firestar's Quest. According to your contributions, it looks like you were around while it was being discussed (the AFD was open from Oct. 26-Nov. 4).  Metros 23:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Okay I was gone for a while but did vandalism seem to increase while I was gone? ClawClaw 15:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh and on a different note, as much as I hate to say it, Metros did a pretty good job formatting the article
 * Heh heh, ditto.  Spotted  stripe (Talk2Me) 01:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Secrets of the Clans
ive been seeing updates from secrets of the clans on the charecters and the clan page but not on the actual secrets of the clans page!!!!! can someone please put the updates on the secrets of the clans page because i dont have the book yet. p.s. sorry for mixing up dappeletail and speckeletail on the charecters page. Cinderpeltforever


 * Well. Now Secrets of the Clans is deleted too so no point in doing that now. ~Angry Rainpaw —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.85.163 (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

'Blustar Special Edition'
Whatever someone keep putting up that says something about a Bluestar Specail Edition or something, please stop putting it on the page because there is no source on the internet or in books that I have found so far. You can put it back up if you have a refrence other that what you heard at a book signing. Thanks ~ Bella   Swan  13:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe the only source for this book right now is a comment by one of the authors indicating an intent to write it. I do agree that this is not grounds for the book to be included in any official information. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 00:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. We don't know if this is just a plot idea being thrown around, or not. Anyways, there are so many Warriors books planned, it probably won't be out until 2009. We should put it up when there's more info. All we have to go on now is a tiny "maybe". That is not enough to create an article. Crowstar  Crow callsTalon Marks 21:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you'll remember, however, TakaraLioness said that on one of Vicky's tours that she announced it. While it shouldn't already have it's own article, I think that it should at least be mentioned in the main one.   Spotted  stripe (Talk2Me) 01:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

She did announce it; I was at that very tour. She said there were going to be two new special editions (when one person asked if there were going to be any more). One was going to be about Bluestar's past, including the whole first series (so we get an insider's look at her madness during Rising Storm and A Dangerous Path). The other would be about the early Clan cats. I don't have a reference, but I can tell you that they are real books. Lakestorm (talk) 22:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Unless you have video that you're willing to add to the Internet, it dosen't count that she announced it during the tour. Though you could also find a news article that's online to reference to verify it, also. But until there is more than a "He-said-she-said" happening here, it dosen't MATTER in the grand scheme of Wikipedia. No way to reference it to a reliable news source or other piece of irrefutable proof and it may as well have never happened. You saying she said it is basically just posting an unsubstantiated rumor. I'm sorry, it's not that I don't trust you, it's just that facts need to be referenced. and someone saying they heard someone else say it doesn't count unless it's published in some way by a reliable news source. I can post links to the related Wikipedia policies, if you'd like. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 20:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Guys that's what I've been trying to say! If you want to create an article about the Blusestar special edition, do it on the Warriors Wikia, not here. ~ Bella   Swan  22:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually *cough* We who run the Warriors Wiki also class it as 'unsubstantiated rumor'. Eulalia manages a page where rumors are noted on her Namespace, but until we have a solid indication that more is happening than the authors are planning to write it we don't created articles. Considering we don't even have a hint of a working title, *shrugs* There's not even enough to bother with an article. There is literally no information on the topic other than a "he-said-she-said" that it's in the works. Until there's either a registered ISBN with the Library of Congress, or some other solid evidence that it will be going to press (such as an author tracker announcement) the Wikia will turn up it's nose, too. While we won't require outside articles to keep pages on published books... we require solid evidence that they're acctually going to hit the presses. You'd be surprised how easily plans can change. For all the talk about doing it, at this stage the publisher could call them up tomorrow and go "Hey, guess what, no new special edition". Keep your eyes open, and once we have an amazon (or other bookseller listing), an LOC entry, or some other proof that it's acctually hitting the presses, then it can be added to the Wikia (and probobly here, though I'm not sure how strongly the Books Notability guideline is enforced for the 'coming soon' set). Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 13:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright then, I wasn't sure on how much information is out, so I guess we'll just have to wait some more. :) ~ Bella   Swan  22:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, we just need to be patient. I'm sure there'll be another Wands and World chat after the release of Dark River, and they'll mention more upcoming books there, like they did at the last one. TakaraLioness (talk) 23:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Dark River release date
Hi I'm back. If you don't already know Canada gets the books first for some reason. Chapters.ca says Dec. 12. I'm wondering if we should add this as a possible date. Would you count Chapters as a good source? Sometimes the are wrong though.

Also this bugs me. Some say it isn't fair we get the books first. But even though Canadien and Americian money is worth the same now, book prices don't change. So we still end up paying more then Americains. Midnight was $5 more, and Twilight was $10 more. So don't say it's not fair, because we've got our own drawbacks. Griffenflash 20:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Lost Information
Due to the recent deletions of Firestar's Quest, Secrets of the Clans and the pending decision on Dark River I wanted to bring something important up. Just deleting them means that the information on them is lost. At the very least we should be able to move small tidbits into the main warriors article. ClawClaw (talk) 21:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be better to push for Transwiki on all articles to send them to Warriors Wiki. While we already have articles on most of those things, information from them could be worked into existing WWiki articles, rather than packing it into the main series article here and putting THAT at risk for deletion. Wikipedia isn't the place for most of your more detailed in-universe stuff. Warriors Wiki is. Without 3rd party references the information simply does not fit Wikipedia's rules. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 15:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think ClawClaw ment that information like release dates and small tidbits of plot info. ~Rainpaw —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.85.163 (talk) 16:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Transwiki is still better. I wonder if cross-wiki-linking to Warriors Wiki would be an acceptable method by which to have articles to the less-notable books linked from the Wikipedia articles... I shall have to check policy and find out... Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 15:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I do think it's a good point, but is there really any important info in the articles? I think the articles were just uploaded pictures with a tiny plot summary. Not really much to transwiki. ~ Bella   Swan  15:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Fourth Series?
Yeah, someone created a section about this, and I removed it because they didn't provide a ref. Just as some advice, don't waste your time creating sections on how up coming books were talked about on this tour, or on some chat website without providing a source or ref, becasue someone will just delete it. ~ Bella   Swan  20:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering there's also absolutely no information other than rumors that there will be a fourth series (though their might be web-based references for it, but I'm not sure), until we have more details I don't see any reason to even consider adding it even if we have a reference. Why make a section that says "There are gonna be 6 more books... They'll be about something but no one's told us what yet..." Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 15:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. I agree. ~ Bella   Swan  16:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)