Talk:Wars of the Delian League

To be expanded!
This article is still under-construction. At the moment it is mostly lifted from the article Greco-Persian Wars, but it will be expanded (and the latter article contracted) soon. Please do not delete! MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 17:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Result issue (even proposed name change!)
Can you please put relevant sources which is referring that Wars of Delian League against Persia finished with their victory? Note important issues:
 * 1. Delian campaigns against Persia lasted till 449 BC when Cimon has died (or has been killed) at Cyprus and Athenians were defeated in Egypt, so Delian navy retreat from Persian Cyprus and Egypt. Both sides signed Peace of Callias and that was official end of their conflict.
 * 2. As for my rhetoric question - there is no any relevant source which claim Delian campaign against Persia was victory, because it was clearly not (due to their disasters in Cyprus and Egypt). Delian League was forced to sign peace with Persia because of First Peloponnesian War against Sparta, which lasted at precisely the same time.
 * 3. Name of this article is "Wars of the Delian League" and it's referring just to conflict with Persia (till 449 BC), but Delian League also participated in Wars against Peloponnesian League (led by Sparta) which lasted till 404 BC when Delian League was dissolved. It's obvious that article is made as part of Greco-Persian Wars series, but it should be renamed as "Wars of the Delian League against Persia" or Delian-Persian Wars; other option is to include later Delian conflicts (including Peloponnesian War) inside this article. BUT, then the whole purpose of this article lose it's sense as part of wars against Persia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.33.41 (talk) 00:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Apart from territorial changes in the infobox, which indicate that Persia lost control over Thrace, the Aegean and the western coast of Asia Minor: the Peace with Persia explicitly emphasizes the terms of the treaty, while the Aftermath section indicates that shortly afterwards the Delian League evolved into Athenian Empire. And moreover, the League wars "shifted the balance of power between Greece and Persia in favour of the Greeks". Personally I see nothing smelling like defeat here. So whether the Peace of Callias existed or not, it does not affect the victorious outcome. There are a number of supporting refs on that right in the article. Brandmeister[t] 16:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Reference missing - "Hornblower"
I assume citation 77 is in reference to one of Simon Hornblower's books, but none are listed in the References section. This should be fixed or removed. --CimonT (talk) 00:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)