Talk:Washington State Route 409/GA1

GA Review
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 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * The article needs a good copy edit. There are too many small prose issues for me to detail here, but the whole article needs another editor to review and edit the prose. The thumbnail images should not specify a size per MOSIMAGE. This breaks user thumbnail size preferences, and should only be done with a good reason.
 * Comment: I have copyedited the article, and it appears that the thumb size specifications have been removed. Scapler (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * Captions should not end in periods unless they are full, complete sentences, which is not the case here.
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I can't honestly in good conscience promote this article without a thorough copy edit. In addition there are MOS issues with the image formatting and captions. There are issues in the usage of currency links and abbreviations in the tolls. All of these issues need to be fixed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 05:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed the images and requested a copyedit from the GOCE. ComputerGuy 22:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I am currently copyediting the article per the request left at the GOCE. Scapler (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I can't honestly in good conscience promote this article without a thorough copy edit. In addition there are MOS issues with the image formatting and captions. There are issues in the usage of currency links and abbreviations in the tolls. All of these issues need to be fixed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 05:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed the images and requested a copyedit from the GOCE. ComputerGuy 22:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I am currently copyediting the article per the request left at the GOCE. Scapler (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I have finished copyediting the article for grammar, flow, and syntax. I would put my support behind the promotion of this page to good article status. Scapler (talk) 02:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be waiting for a second review to be conducted as I did request a second reviewer take a look at the article. Imzadi1979 (talk) 19:22, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Second opinion
 * 1) Prose: Lead too short. What is "whic"? First two sentences of RD are a repeat of the lead. AADT data makes no sense - "before the intersection"? Please explain what you mean by that. How does the ferry relate to SR 409? Tolls section should be replaced. I don't see how the entire 1925-1939 section connects with the rest of the article. Resurfacing is not encyclopedic. You're saying that WSDOT switched 409 to 12F and then switched it back? It's not exactly clear.
 * 2) Sourcing: Please combine the Yahoo maps citations.
 * 3) Broad in coverage: See above.
 * 4) Neutral, stable, images are good.

Hold There are some serious issues with this article that were not resolved with the copyedit. You have seven days to address the issues; otherwise, it will be failed. --Rschen7754 (T C) 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * All done. ComputerGuy 19:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You're still missing some of them. --Rschen7754 (T C) 20:02, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Where is the "whic" that you speak of? Also, the ferry is the southern terminus of SR 409, and connects SR 409 to Oregon; there is no tolls section in the article, the prices were removed by Scapler and Imzadi. ComputerGuy 20:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Do a find for "whic." I know how the ferry relates to the article; but you have to explain in the article. The tolls section should be replaced; Imzadi actually disagreed with its removal. --Rschen7754 (T C) 21:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. ComputerGuy 23:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh, I don't see the tolls section. --Rschen7754 (T C) 23:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

The article looks much better now. Imzadi1979 (talk) 00:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Passing. In the future, please try to handle addressing objections on your own rather than asking someone else to or simply pronouncing them as addressed. --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)