Talk:Washington State Route 531/Archive 1

Map
I have just created the map!

-Wiki890 02:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Maps are supposed to be in SVG, per WP:USRD/MTF --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, at least we've got one, since the MTF is a little backlogged anyway. -- NORTH talk 07:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Possible GA?
I think this article could improve a small bit and may be a possible GA. What do you think? — ComputerGuy890100  Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 15:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Not even close. --Rschen7754 (T C) 20:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Improving it "a small bit" won't get it to GA status. Articles can't be considered for a possible GA with only two references – and none in the history section.  The prose also still needs some work. --  K é iryn  talk 23:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I expanded the history section and added more references about WSDOT's projects. — ComputerGuy890100  Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 23:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like a good start at first glance. I'll take a look at it over the next couple of days to see what improvements I can make as well. --  K é iryn  talk 00:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Great. You may want to look over the new route description. — ComputerGuy890100  Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 02:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

GA Review
I'm quickfailing this article at this time because it has some issues: If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Imzadi1979 (talk) 19:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) The presence of the citation tag in the reference section alone is enough to quickfail.
 * 2) The map in the Route description section should be right-aligned under the MOS.
 * 3) The most minor reason is the non-standard infobox.


 * While I wholeheartedly agree that this article was not ready for a GA nomination, the infobox is standard. Infobox WA State Route feeds parameters directly into infobox road. --  K é iryn  talk 02:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, that might be, but it was also the most minor reason given. I am curious why WA uses a specialized infobox when infobox road does a good job as is? Imzadi1979 (talk) 03:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Because Washington's infobox template was created after a long discussion at WT:WASH before infobox road was standardized nationwide. It's essentially the same, with a couple of tweaks that make Washington-specific things a little easier. --  K é iryn  talk 04:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have done everything on the list except the citations. There are no good sources via Google. Most are PDF documents, so I am taking off the template. — ComputerGuy890100  Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 04:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If there are no "good" sources to support whatever you have to say, then you can't say it in an encyclopedia. To quote the message that's at the bottom of every edit window, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable."  For good article and above, it must be verified, meaning cited.  I will go through the article tomorrow or on Monday (I've been meaning to for a while) and fact exactly what needs to be cited.  There is a lot. -- Kéiryn (talk) 09:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added more references and fixed all of the problems. Now there are 0 citation tags and 17 references. I will take out the image gallery as soon as possible. --CG was here. 18:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I just have a few suggestions for passing GA. The picture of SR 531 in 1990 is nice, but I have no idea which road it's specifically talking about. Perhaps you should specify in the caption what road is supposed to be the focal point. Also, the last paragraph of the history section is a bit awkward. "...additional road improvements are expected to help with traffic" makes it sound like the improvements will happen while "This may mean the addition of numerous new lanes and traffic signals" makes it sound like the improvements might happen. CL — 19:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed each problem. I highlighted the route of SR 531 on the 1990 picture and I improved the last paragrpah telling that improvements west of I-5 might happen and east of I-5 will happen (used a WSDOT reference). I also divided the Route description into two sections about the route, one about road extensions (or extensions of roads used by SR 531 like Lakewood Road), and another about bus service. --CG was here. 20:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyeditor's thoughts
This reads well and makes sense to me even though I have never seen the road. I have a few suggestions for further improvement.
 * The road map would be much more meaningful to someone not familiar with the area if you added a few labels. These could include town names as well as road identifiers. See New York State Route 32, a featured article, for an example.
 * In the "Lake Goodwin to Smokey Point" section, you mention "a pair of railroad tracks". It's not clear whether you mean a pair of rails (one track) or a double track.
 * I would suggest adding metric distances (kilometers) to the "Major intersections" table.
 * Citation 20 does not conform in format to the other citations in the article. It should be changed to citeweb to match the rest. Finetooth (talk) 22:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for copyediting the article! There is one problem though...


 * The template Jctint does not allow kilometers to be added to the major intersections table.
 * Everything else is fine and finished! ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 16:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't notice the template's limitations or that the FA article I mentioned above used the same or a similar template. I'd think seriously about improving the map, though, even though that's not so easy. Except for people who recognize the shape of the coast, the map gives no clues about where in the world it might be or what the colored lines represent. It's necessary to read the text to find that out. A better map would work more-or-less by itself as an information carrier. Finetooth (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I made a map and it is located at Image:Washington State Route 531.png. It has shields and names of major locations in the area. ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 00:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Much better. Good job. Best of luck with the pursuit of "A" class. Finetooth (talk) 03:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have replaced the map and I will be nominating this article for A-Class promotion in the coming weeks. My deadline for nominating this article is September 1st. ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 00:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

FA?
ACR, peer review, etc. I think this article is ready to be FACed. Comments? This page was edited by ĈĠ 23:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

What is this?
A class or Good Article? Jay8g (talk) 01:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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