Talk:Water as fuel

John Kanzius
The problem here is that it is not clear what Kanzius is claiming.

Is he or is he not claiming that he gets more energy out than the RF input?

If yes: then it appears a water as fuel proposal

If no: then he is apparently claming a highly efficient method of producing hydrogen.

Which is it?

Kaznius himself is not making any public comments, he does not even have a web site. The statements reported and attributed to him have been contradictory.

Meanwhile, his strongest supporter so far, Dr. Rustum Roy, states (as of 13th Sept 2007):

"He has not made any attempt as far as we know to obtain the data regarding the energy balance between input and output." http://www.rustumroy.com/response_to_email.htm

The problem here is complete absence of data on the input and output energy numbers for the process. It is puzzling as to why this is being kept so secret..... I can understand secrecy about HOW it is done, but secrecy as to WHAT has been done makes no sense. Charles 14:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Dr Roy is now 85 years old - since retirement as a chemist 20 years ago, he's "lost it" - he's taken up bizarre eastern religions and started working on magnetic whole body healing and all sorts of other bullshit pseudo-science. I've spoken to one of his ex-colleagues (via email) and he believes that Dr Roy is no longer to be considered a creditable source.  To put it bluntly Kanzius' "strongest supporter" is suffering the consequences of senility.  Sadly, Dr Roy's credentials as "A Scientist at Cornell" and "An established chemist with a strong reputation" are trotted out at every Kinzler press briefing - and journalists  too often swallow things like that without checking them.  SteveBaker 10:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It's pretty funny though. Roy even stated himself (http://www.rustumroy.com/response_to_email.htm) that Kanzius did not prove that he got more energy out than in. &mdash; NRen2k5 17:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)