Talk:Waterspout

Waterspouts are tornadoes over water
Extract from www.torro.org.uk:

"Some tornadoes form out to sea as strong waterspouts (q.v.) which sometimes cross the coast, so a waterspout may become a tornado as the twisting funnel moves from land to sea (and vice-versa). A recent powerful and well-documented example is that of Selsey on the south coast of England on the night of 7 to 8 January 1998. When the waterspout made landfall, it carved a trail of damage a kilometer wide through the town as it damaged hundreds of buildings in less than ten minutes"

Also, and extract from http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/NWSTornado/

"Waterspouts occasionally move inland becoming tornadoes causing damage and injuries."

Cleanup required
Following today's extensive edits by User:65.77.67.15 - diff, we now need a bit of clean up. The edits mostly look good, but
 * 1) The significant changes to Waterspout vs Tornado definitions need confirmation or sourcing
 * 2) we've lost the original references
 * 3) lead para needs reformatting to conform with the Manual of Sytle
 * 4) self references to Wikipedia need to be removed

Water devil
Is a water devil a type of tornadic waterspout, or a synonym? Vivo (talk) 08:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It is a dust devil on water (no clouds). Pierre cb (talk) 12:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . So there is no water in it, and the water body only serves as a surface? Vivo (talk) 08:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * No. There is no clouds related to it above, but it can suck water from the body of water on which it is as there is dust in a dust devil. Pierre cb (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Waterspout kills 4 secret service persons after waterspout capsizes a boat in Italy
The article states: Incidents of waterspouts causing severe damage and casualties are rare; however, there have been several notable examples.. This week, a boat in Italy's Lago Maggiore capsized and 4 died, all on the boat were curiously related to the secret services of Italy or Israel: CNN AncientWalrus (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Mesocyclone part needs to be edited
The part about some waterspouts coming from mesocyclones is incorrect. If the funnel was spawned by a mesocyclone, it has the ability to cross onto land and therefore is actually a tornado. It’s just a tornado over water. But the mesocyclone part is what determines the difference. 2600:1700:B291:F30:F827:60E4:5BC6:3A5C (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This IP did not read the text . It is clearly said that only tornadic waterspout are issued from mesocyclone (with references):


 * 1) in the introduction :"Most waterspouts do not suck up water; they are small, weak rotating columns of air over water. Although typically weaker than their land counterparts, stronger versions—spawned by mesocyclones—do occasionally occur."
 * 2) in "Tornadic" section: "Tornadic waterspouts, also accurately referred to as "tornadoes over water", are formed from mesocyclones in a manner essentially identical to land-based tornadoes in connection with severe thunderstorms, but simply occurring over water." For sure those can can transfert inland from water.

Pierre cb (talk) 03:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)