Talk:Watertown, New York/Archive 1

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I re-added the line regarding Woolworth and the five and dime, but changed the wording. It is worth keeping in.

FW Woolworth did not open his first store in Watertown, but he invented the five and dime concept while employed at the Smith and Moore Department Store in Watertown. His success with the idea led him to leave Watertown and open his first store in Utica, NY.

Rja141 05:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

History, Category and Reference
76.102.31.185 (talk) 21:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC) I think the article needs more on Watertown's 19th-20th c. history and significance, as it relates to the development of industry and wealth across the northern states. I have to find the citation, but around the turn of the 20th century, Watertown had more millionaires per capita than any other city in the United States, which shows its wealth. The residents' pride was shown in their ambitious public and private buildings: historically significant Public Square, a park designed by Frederick Law Olmsted (who did Central Park), and mansions. I have to check the National Register of Historic Places, but know there is more than one Watertown listing on there.--Parkwells 23:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Because of this, I added the category: List of Registered Historic Places, Jefferson County, NY, as described in the wiki guidelines for category, National Register of Historic Places (NRHP). Added internal links for Paddock Arcade and National Register of Historic Places. --Parkwells 19:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC) Also added the Official Website of the NHRP as an External Link. It has a database for searching buildings, districts, sites, etc. --Parkwells 17:27, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
Wikipedia guidelines suggest Trivia should be folded into other sections.--Parkwells 23:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing
Got messages from the Wikipedia server while I was working on the article page. It seems to have dropped some items, although at first it looked as if everything was saved.--Parkwells 19:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Recent Events
These events took place 1 and 2 years ago. Their inclusion doesn't seem in keeping with the encyclopedia approach. They seem included to make fun of some of the attitudes and incidents in the town. I'm not sure if they are significant enough to include and recommend deletion, even if they have temporary "news" interest.--Parkwells 19:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Link 2 in Recent Events is no longer available. --Parkwells 21:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Writer/Director/Producer Mark Neveldine whom assisted in the making of Pathology(2008), Crank(2006), Biker BoyZ(2004), and the Siege(1996)was born in Watertown, Ny.

references:http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1808725260, as well as my High School Sociology teacher Mr.Fitzpatrick(Watertown High School), a relative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.119.148 (talk) 11:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Pixar
The Pixar thing is a total joke and should be deleted. 24.87.56.142 (talk) 00:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

In what Town was the Village located before it become a city?
76.102.31.185 (talk) 21:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra
Does anyone want to add to the trivia section or the media section above it that Frank Sinatra did a whole album called Watertown which I believe is about Watertown. But maybe we should leave it out because it is probably Old Blue Eye's worst material? Teetotaler 11 August, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.81.197 (talk) 01:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Photo request
✅ --JBC3 (talk) 21:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Date of Incorporation and boundaries
When was the city incorporated and did it swallow up the entire township of Watertown? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.218.101.106 (talk) 02:28, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Notable people section
I removed people from this section because they do not have their own Wikipedia article, which is required to establish notability. The information I removed is: Daniel Flatley, writer for Watertown Daily Times and Melody Laughlin, author of "I Love You Baby Girl" and "The Caves: Book One" — Preceding unsigned comment added by BuzyBody (talk • contribs) 23:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 8 February 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Watertown (city), New York → Watertown, New York – As the lead of the towns article even states, most references to Watertown, New York refer to the city. The town can keep its article name, but I think the city should be moved to the WP:COMMONNAME. Lallint ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  23:27, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. The base name cannot be a redirect to one of the topics; per WP:DAB is must either host the primary topic (as proposed here), be a dab page, or redirect to another term as a primary redirect. The dab page could be restored, but I think the city is an obvious primary topic here, with appropriate hatnotes and links to the town. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:46, 8 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. Also, move Watertown (town), New York to Watertown, New York (town). The standard title formatting for a parenthetical disambiguation is to have it at the end of the title, not in the mibble. Rreagan007 (talk) 06:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support; also agree with Rreagan007 that the parenthetical clarifier on the town should be moved to the end. ╠╣uw [ talk ] 19:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose Watertown, New York (town). It looks as if "town" is modifying "New York". Showiecz (talk) 19:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt anyone would think that the parenthetical disambiguator was specifically referring to New York as a town, rather than applying to the title as a whole. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The current name has no ambiguity. If it was city instead of town, it would appear as if it is in New York City. Showiecz (talk) 04:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Then how about we just merge the town into the city since it will no longer have the disambiguators? Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  13:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree with a merge. Showiecz (talk) 15:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose merge: The city and town are separate entities. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 20:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The town seems to have absolutely nothing unique to offer, but on a re-think yes I think we shouldn't merge the page but we should rename it from Watertown (town), New York to Watertown, New York (town) Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  22:17, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It has been 9 days and the discussion has ended, but I can't close this because I was involved Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  13:52, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.