Talk:Watts family murders/Archive 1

Affair
Why no reference to Chris Watts's mistress Nicole Kessinger?...especially since she very well (as several amateur-sleuth YouTubers are vigorously arguing) may have been in on it at some point--or perhaps even the "Double Indemnity"-style instigator!--of what she herself at one point during her own questioning phrased, quite oddly, "the event". [signed] FLORIDA BRYAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:588:C500:AA0:88B7:84A4:3810:5937 (talk) 06:47, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This is mentioned as: "According to the [police] affidavit, Watts was having an affair..." For Wikipedia purposes, the mistress is considered to be a non-public figure; see: Who is a low-profile individual. She's not committed any crime and there's no need to mention her by name. I also removed the father's name; same rationale applies to him. Their names are not essential to the article. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


 * His parents Cindy and Ronnie Watts have spoken up for their son in interviews. At that point they've become part of the story right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHMFQzyAAu8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.110.195.254 (talk) 21:34, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Race Statistics
I restored the material with this edit. It provides context and has been included as such in the coverage of the case. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The cited source doesn't actually identify any research. It attributes those statements to a former FBI agent and news contributor “Garrett”. The phrasing here gives the illusion of science, when the source only provides a single expert's assertion. 24.5.94.142 (talk) 03:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

So a country that is majority white will possibly have more cases that the criminal is also part of that same majority what a shocker, and where is the data showing what this fbi agent claims is true the article shows nothing but that statement from some random agent and not data, that opinion is of no value without proven factual data — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianjack1 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

What is the relevance of adding the "white people tend to kill their families" statistic? What was the point of that? Do Wiki articles on cases involving a black male perpetrator mention that blacks tend to be, by far, the most likely to commit homicide? I've never seen it. I'm scanning through the Simpson/Nicole Brown trial wiki and I'm not seeing it. How many family-homicides even occur per year for it to be relevant to categorize this in a racial context and include it in this article? Let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.112.82.73 (talk • contribs) 01:27, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Article title
Is there any reason why this is entitled as "Watts family homicides"? Shouldn't it be "Watts family murders"? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)


 * There have been no replies in these past 3 or 4 months ... so, I made the move today.  To "Watts family murders".  Thanks.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Four life sentences
He killed three people. But, he received four life sentences. The article should explain this "oddity". I believe that he received two life sentences for each child, for a total of four life sentences. (One life sentence for the murder of the child; plus, an additional life sentence because the child was under the age of 12; times two children = four life sentences.) I don't believe that he received a life sentence for the murder of the wife or for the murder of the unborn baby. In any event, the article should detail this a bit. I am not 100% sure, so I don't want to add anything in, incorrectly. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:11, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Also, the Info Box states that Watts was charged with five charges of first-degree murder (for killing three people). As in my post above, this "oddity" should also be clarified.  It also seems to "line up" with my understading, posted immediately above (i.e., there were two murder counts for Bella; and two murder counts for Celeste).  Thanks.   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:12, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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Motive
Noone knows his motive? (technically it was deemed that we don't know Chris Watt's motive. - Considering we don't operate the exact same way he does, we can't tell him how he should think.) uh yes we do. New hot spicy girlfriend he spent 5.5 weeks with, (while wife was out of town), who wanted to marry him and give him a son. His house was worth $510K on a loan on $350, and he had life insurance policies maxed out at 20K and $100K on the kids. She said he wouldn' t see the kids. He wanted to sell the house and get the equity and start a new life with the cool girlfriend instead of his wife that was doing MLM at a very high level of manipulation. He was a passive idiot who got swept up in a new relationship. Also a monster. So he would get $160K + $20K x2 + $100K and not have to pay child support and the $500/week daycare. It was be totally poor with his new girl, or be kind of well off with her. She wanted a wedding (she was googling wedding dresses) and told him she could give him a son.


 * Also, bought large house in 13, went bankrupt in 15, still live there at the time of the murders, posted $750,000 bail on September 1. Can anyone explain, how does private finance actually work in the US? Serious question. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:6CF3:6B77:D126:134F (talk) 07:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


 * What does "MLM at a very high level of manipulation" mean, was she making good money or not? 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:6CF3:6B77:D126:134F (talk) 07:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)