Talk:Waverley (novel)

Source of the title 'Waverley'
I have read elsewhere that Scott was inspired to take the title 'Waverley' from Waverley Abbey near Farnham in Surrey. Can anyone verify this? John Owen Smith 09:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC) Yes, this is the case.

Scott has an introductory piece to the novel in which he discusses (in a tongue-in-cheek manner) the origin of the title. The truth, of course, is that the title character "wavers" between the two sides in the '45. Tom129.93.17.12 (talk) 02:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Your comment may be correct, but is there a source that says that clearly? --Prairieplant (talk) 05:43, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Pieces on Waverley from Wikisource
I need to re-read and get back to this when I'm more awake, however the following are references that may be worthy of reference in this article:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Spirit_of_the_Age/Sir_Walter_Scott - Refers repeatedly to scott as 'the author of waverley'

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_Denoting - An article on logic, but interestingly the argument of whether or not Scott wrote Waverley is used as an example:

If a is identical with b, whatever is true of the one is true of the other, and either may be substituted for the other in any proposition without altering the truth or falsehood of that proposition. Now George IV wished to know whether Scott was the author of Waverley; and in fact Scott was the author of Waverley. Hence we may substitute Scott for the author of 'Waverley', and thereby prove that George IV wished to know whether Scott was Scott. Yet an interest in the law of identity can hardly be attributed to the first gentleman of Europe.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Adullam - 1911 Encyclopedia - "From the description of Adullam as the resort of "every one that was in distress," or "in debt," or "discontented," it has often been humorously alluded to, notably by Sir Walter Scott, who puts the expression into the mouth of the Baron of Bradwardine in Waverley, chap. lvii., and also of Balfour of Burley in Old Mortality."

Silverthorn 17:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Literary Criticism
The Waverley Hypertext Project http://seneca.uab.cat/SCOTT/ may be useful for the expanding the literary criticism aspect of this article. Silverthorn 12:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

To Do
I have attempted to expand the article using the novels article template as a guide. However, there still seem to be things to do:


 * infobox tagged as incomplete - can this be improved?
 * literary criticism - I've made a start, but this seems to be a section that requires expansion given Waverley's place in literary history.
 * references from other works - does anyone know of any works that allude to Waverley that we should add?
 * film/television/radio adaptations - do any exist that we should be aware of?

Silverthorn 17:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I find nothing in Internet Movie DataBase (imdb). Which is odd--I mean, odd if nobody has ever adapted this work for the cinema, it being such a popular work. Tom129.93.17.12 (talk) 02:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Waverley.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

how is waverley pronounced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.92.144 (talk) 18:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Removing section
The material in "Allusions/references from other works" has no place in this article, as it has absolutely nothing to do with Waverley specifically. This article is about the novel Waverley, not general influences of Scott on other authors. I am therefore removing the section. --Alan W (talk) 04:29, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

POV issues
It's certainly true that Lucy argued strenuously that Waverley was the first historical novel (/fiction). That strenuousness was necessary because it was obviously not true and earlier writers like Jane Porter (whose Thaddeus of Warsaw ran into 80-odd editions in the 19th century and inspired numerous placenames in America) preceded him by at least a decade, even if we confine "historical fiction" to Austen- and Scott-style novels. That upsets the Napoleonic timeline he was trying to insist on... but that doesn't make his argument true.

I'm not saying we need to extirpate Lucy entirely from the article, but it's certainly unbalanced and POVy as is. — Llywelyn II   16:19, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Incomplete infobox
In the box above with ratings of the article, there is a comment that the infobox is incomplete. I believe it is complete. I added alt= with text to describe the illustration from 1893 used in place of the first edition cover page. Can someone say what is missing from infobox? I did follow the link in the box, and it points to a shorter template than the current one shown at Template:Infobox book.


 * A separete point is to ask, why is the illustration not placed in the article somewhere, and the title page of the first edition not used in the infobox, as is done for the succeeding "Waverley novels" articles? --Prairieplant (talk) 05:48, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

reference 13: Waverley Hypertext Project
This page no longer exists and should be removed. I would have done it myself, but clicking at the respective edit button only gave me this: