Talk:Waymo/Archives/2018

Proposing update to Technology section
Hi there! On behalf of Waymo, I'd like to request some updates throughout this article, which is quite outdated in places. Previously, the article contained lengthy detail about self-driving technology and related topics that did not necessarily belong in the Waymo article, but recent updates to address those issues have already helped focus this article on the company. With that said, there are still some issues in the article that I'd like to help address. I've researched Waymo and created a full draft of what an updated article could look like based on secondary sourcing and in line with Wikipedia's standards. You can see my full-article draft in my user space. I've also made  to compare my draft with the current article.

This is a large article with many opportunities for updates throughout: some small, and some that are a little larger. To not overwhelm reviewing editors, I'll split up my proposed updates and share them section-by-section. I'd like to start with a proposed update for the Technology section, as it has some straightforward edits needed to address outdated information that is currently written in the present tense. As a consequence, the information is confusing and misleading in places. Below, you can see my proposed changes (green text is new, strikethrough is text I propose cutting), the proposed new draft, and the markup for the proposed draft ready to be added into the article in place of the current section.

The updates that I am proposing for Technology are:
 * Copy editing and correcting verb tense
 * Adding Waymo's in-house hardware and its effects on cost and integration with Waymo technology
 * Adding Carcraft, Waymo's virtual testing world
 * Adding partnerships
 * Adding details on vehicles using Waymo technology
 * Deleting outdated details on the systems and hardware used on vehicles

Since I do have a financial conflict of interest, I won't edit the article myself and am looking for uninvolved editors to review and make changes as appropriate.

I've noticed that Daniel.Cardenas and Merxistan have recently made constructive edits to this article. Would either of you be interested and able to look into this request? Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 21:06, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rhiannon. Recommend you go ahead and make the updates.  If there is a conflict we can go back to talking on this talk page. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 22:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Daniel.Cardenas. I follow the "bright line" and don't edit where I have a conflict of interest, instead seeking uninvolved editors to consider my proposed updates. Would you be willing to review my suggested edits? I'm happy to discuss any issues or answer questions here. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk &middot; COI) 03:51, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, thank you for following Wikipedia's "conflict of interest" guideline. If you don't find a regular article editor with enough time (of course we are all volunteers here editing in our free time), please use Template:request edit in your message. The template will add your request to a queue for requested reviews, so your suggestions are more visible and won't get lost. It might take a bit of time, but the queue isn't very busy currently. Editors with a conflict of interest are strongly discouraged from editing such articles themselves - it's better to let an uninvolved editor review and implement your suggestion, as you mentioned. Hope this helps. GermanJoe (talk) 17:54, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, GermanJoe. For this request (and others I make here) I'm really hoping that editors familiar with the topic will weigh in and review my suggestions, so I'm going to hold off on using the request edit template. I'm in no rush and am happy to wait or look around for folks who might be interested to help. I'll definitely consider using the template if needed. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk &middot; COI) 00:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks 16912 Rhiannon for putting together updated information for the article. I have edited the page accordingly, including most of the proposed changes throughout the full article. Merxistan (talk) 20:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the review and updating the article, Merxistan, I really appreciate the thorough look at my request and the new draft. Everything looks great, though I'll be sure to ping back here if I spot anything that I have a follow-up question about. And thanks for your patience; I've been traveling over the last week and half. In case you'd be interested to take a peek, I also have a request for John Krafcik's article, too. If not, no worries and thanks again for your help here! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk &middot; COI) 22:11, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Proposed updates at John Krafcik
Hi all! Wondering if editors watching this page might be interested in my request to update the article for CEO John Krafcik. While I have prepared a full updated draft for the article (which you can see in my user space), to start off with something simple I'm suggesting the addition of an Early life and education section, as is common in biography articles.

I am here on behalf of Waymo as part of my work with Beutler Ink. Since I do have a financial conflict of interest, I won't edit the article myself and am looking for uninvolved editors to review and make changes as appropriate. If anyone here has a little time to look at this request, it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Question on key people
Hi I wonder if Tatyana Bezuglova can be removed from the infobox's key people parameter, as she is not a high-level executive at Waymo, and does not appear to meet the criteria defined at Template:Infobox_company. Specifically, the template states: "Generally list prominent, current executives within the company holding key positions such as chairman, chief executive officer, president, VP of design, etc., but do not list roles below chief officer level if they are not notable." Also, the citation provided does not list Tatyana Bezuglova.

Since I do have a financial conflict of interest as I am here on behalf of Waymo as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I won't edit the article myself and am looking for uninvolved editors to review and make changes as appropriate. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 18:49, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * 16912 Rhiannon, those are good points. I removed her as one of the listed key people. Merxistan (talk) 20:57, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help here, Merxistan, much appreciated! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk &middot; COI) 21:02, 17 September 2018 (UTC)