Talk:We Came as Romans

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Plz notice... We came as Romans has definitely to be classified as Post-Hardcore, not as Metalcore, there is a little diffrence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.149.84.169 (talk) 18:07, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

You are missing a former member Mark the old vocalist. Mark gone, dave from guitar to vocals, lou joins guitar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.35.71 (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Larry Clark was not an original member of this band. He joined after Zelda quit the band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.189.20 (talk) 17:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

related to the graph & members: mark uncleanvocals/keys leave, lou guitar join, dave from guitar/backingvocals to uncleanvocals/keys; larry unclean vocals leave, chris uncleanvocals/keys join, dave from uncleanvocals/keys to uncleanvocals; chris uncleanvocals/keys leave, kyle cleanvocals/keys join. 5 members = 1 uncleanvocals, 6 members prekyle = 2 uncleanvocals, 6 members post chris 1 uncleanvocals 1 cleanvocals.68.48.195.130 (talk) 16:07, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

More Info
If you have something to share about the band put it here. Please add more stuff and try to refrain from removing stuff.

Creditability
Can we let this page be, I worked real hard on it. If anyone has anything to add please add it, but don't delete it. If something should be fixed let me know and I will work on it quickly.

Then you need to explain why they are notable and worthy of an article on Wikipedia. Read Notability (music) for the criteria to be met. NtheP (talk) 21:47, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, i was unaware of that, i am working to fix that. . Give me some time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gart99 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC) <>

Am i getting close? I feel that it should stay. They are signed to a big name record company and a big name producer and are well known in the hardcore/christian music world. And november 3rd they will have one album and two EPs out.

Well thats about all i can think of, feel free to edit it on your own. I am new to this so the formating might be off a little. If someone would like to remove the speedy deletion thing that would be great. If you dont feel like it should be removed please share your concerns.

"Christian Band Debate"
This really should be re-written...

They are not a Christian band yet spends a significant amount of time talking about love and hoping people change the way they act because of it. When asked if they were a Christian band, their guitarist replied, ""We have Christian dudes in our band and we have non-Christian dudes in our band, and as a whole, we're not a Christian band. We definitely get it, but we also get it a lot because our music, as a whole, has a positive message to it, and there aren't a whole lot of bands with a positive message who aren't Christian bands. Typically, its just Christian bands who promote a positive message. Just because we have a message, and its not about killing each other, we get the Christian band tag. "


 * I took it out and placed it as a single sentence in the intro paragraph, though I think it may fit in the history section better. There's no need for a whole section. 98.198.85.83 (talk) 08:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Genre war.
What is going on here?!?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DCcomicslover (talk • contribs) 19:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm also seeing this from my recent changes patrol. They might well be emo-pop beloved of scene kids. To the anonymous users putting this information up: if this is so, let's have some citations and less argumentative, non-encyclopedic text to support it. --Slashme (talk) 17:31, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Emo, pop music... oh please, obvious troll is obvious.86.160.119.135 (talk) 06:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Sure, they are emo pop. Classifying them as "post-hardcore" - i.e. same genre as Fugazi, Helmet and Jesus Lizard - is a crime against music history, and might very well be seen as trolling - if that's what you meant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.68.27.112 (talk) 14:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

You're an idiot.86.160.168.196 (talk) 07:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Then let's get a compromise going here. Use the genre Screamo which, by definition, draws aspects from Post-Hardcore, and from Emo, and keep the Metalcore genre, which incorporates the hardcore punk aspect. Those two genres would be the most accurate, after doing a little research on what Post-Hardcore actually is, I agree it doesn't describe this band, or most bands grouped into this genre. --Fbifriday (talk) 07:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Screamo isn't a genre, actually. They're a mixture of Post-Hardcore and Metalcore, in my opinion. More metalcore than post-hardcore though. Welchy720 (talk) 08:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Considering the self-titled was released in 2015, why don't we just change the opening sentence to "rock". With a new album coming out soon and the possibility of it being another experimental album, wouldn't it be a safer move to list the band as "rock". ULTRA-DARKNESS :) 2 CHAT  21:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the genres of "Post-Hardcore" bands
After a discussion regarding the genre war taking place on this page, I believe a greater discussion needs to take place regarding the genre listing of bands grouped in the "Post-Hardcore" genre. After looking into the genre a bit, mostly through Wikipedia's own page on the subject, it appears that most bands listed in the [category] are not actual traditional post-hardcore groups. While I understand that genres adapt and change over time, I believe there are much better terms that can be applied to such bands, for instance, Screamo and Metalcore, which incorporates many of the styles used by these types of bands, much better than the post-hardcore genre. However, because many of these bands reject the "screamo" label, the standard has been to place the bands into the post-hardcore category, which is ultimately, I believe, the incorrect one. Certain bands accept the screamo tag, and if a band that is definitely in the screamo band category acknowledges they are a screamo band, should a band that rejects the label, although they have the same musical style, be grouped into a different category?

Summary: If Band A with musical style c is genre y, wouldn't that make Band B with musical style c a genre y artist, even though they claim to be in genre z? And thus, shouldn't we label such bands as genre y, to bring all bands with the same musical style into the same genre on wikipedia?--Fbifriday (talk) 08:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia's standard is verifiability, not truth. What do the sources say? It's not our job to try to define things, everything should come from reliable sources, even if we disagree. TechnoSymbiosis (talk) 06:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Screamo isn't an genre, so don't list it as one. It isn't just rejected by bands, but by fans too. We Came As Romans definitely does have a melodic style to it, but their sound is a mixture of metal and punk, which is what metalcore actually is. Welchy720 (talk) 08:16, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Clean up
Some things need to be removed. There is no need for every last thing the band has ever done to be on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gart99 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If it bothers you that much, you know you could do it. • GunMetal Angel  17:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Warped Tour Australia 2013
Can somebody add that We Came As Romans will be a part of the newly restarted Warped Tour in Australia, which is on in November and December, 2013

To verify: http://www.vanswarpedtouraustralia.com/lineup

Welchy720 (talk) 08:18, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

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Meaning...?
What is it supposed to mean when vocalists are listed as "clean" or "unclean"? We're not talking kosher vocals, are we? Happy days, LindsayHello 13:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * This is fairly universal terminology on pages for metalcore bands with multiple vocalists. Clean vocals are singing, while unclean vocals are death growls or screaming. Due to the physically taxing nature of both clean and unclean vocals, it's extremely common for metalcore bands to have them assigned to separate members. --Chrisbkoolio (talk) 00:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Good, thanks, . That being so, is there a fairly universal way to explain this terminology in our articles?  I looked briefly, when i first came across it, but wasn't able to find ~ hence the question; it's pretty likely, i should think, that i am not the only reader to wonder. Happy days, LindsayHello 12:40, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Hřib krokodýla dundeeho is band to present We Came as Romans to alternative Hřib krokodýla dundeeho. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kompas007 (talk • contribs) 10:38, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

This is the actual lineup
*** This is very incorrect. *** Timeline

Opening sentence genre dispute.
So I was told to ask folks here if the opening sentence should list WCAR as "hardcore punk" or "metalcore" following controversy with a relatively new user named Matt5804. Keep in mind that the cited genres on the page's musical style list "post-hardcore" and "metalcore", which are both spin-offs of "hardcore punk". In addition, "post-hardcore" contains the most citations within the article. Another fact is the self-titled. The self-titled is cited as "alternative metal", "alternative rock", and "nu-metalcore". If you cannot come to an agreement in three days, I'll be changing the genre to "rock". With all the facts out of the way, feel free to discuss. ULTRA-DARKNESS :) 2 CHAT  21:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)