Talk:Weak and strong forms in English

Others uses
This also needs a section as to how "weak form" and "strong form" are used in mathematics and economics.

Mathematicians refer to a strong and weak form of induction. Economists, always hoping to be seen as a rigorous science refer to a strong and weak form of an efficient market. Shape shifters refer to a strong and weak form of bodily transference. Okay, kidding about the last, but someone should add a section discussing strong and weak in terms of mathematics and economics.


 * As it stands, this article is wrongly titled. It is only about English, and the title should make this clear. In addition, the coverage of the topic is minimal, and should be greatly expanded and referenced if it is to be useful to readers. Peter Roach  RoachPeter (talk) 09:24, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

The
I'm not sure if this belongs in this article or not, but the word "the" is often pronounced differently based on the word that follows it, e.g. "the pear" (weak) vs. "the apple" (strong). It generally follows the same rules as "a" vs. "an", only the spelling doesn't change, so it could be seen as worthy of a special note here - unless there's another name for that phenomenon? Lurlock (talk) 20:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merge
At Talk:Stress and vowel reduction in English I have suggested merging this page into that one (since it concerns only English, and is a subtopic of that one). Victor Yus (talk) 07:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Victor Yus (talk) 13:02, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Weak forms in final position
I think it would be worth adding the information that some weak form words usually appear in their strong form when they are unstressed but are utterance-final. My list includes at, for, from, of, some, as, can, have/has/had, shall/should, must, do/does, am/are/was/were. RoachPeter (talk) 15:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that's what the final sentence is trying to say, though perhaps it could be made more explicit. Victor Yus (talk) 07:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)