Talk:Wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Frederick V of the Palatinate

Added citations to quotations that lacked them.
please check to see if I got any wrong. Thanks! :D A. C. Santacruz  &#8258;  Talk  10:37, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * These further citations look fine, thank you.Unoquha (talk) 10:51, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 25 July 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Per lack of participation. NPASR. (I relisted this because I was going to notify WP English Royalty, but they already were, and this thing has been sitting in the backlog for a week, so no need for relisting.) (closed by non-admin page mover) C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:22, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Frederick V of the Palatinate → Wedding of Elizabeth Stuart and Frederick V of the Palatinate – I boldly moved this a few days ago but it was moved back so let's go through the motions. First of all, Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia was never "Princess Elizabeth" as children of the British sovereign were not known as Prince or Princess until the Hanoverians (with the exception of Prince William, Duke of Gloucester, though that could've been due to the fact he was a male-line descendant of the Danish monarch and thus a Prince of Denmark). In any case, WP:CONSISTENT would tell us to move the page to match with "Elizabeth Stuart". estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I think the nominator's argument is correct, given the fact that Queen Mary II was known as "Lady Mary" and Queen Anne was known as "Lady Anne" before their respective marriages and eventual ascension to the throne. But I am also curious to see what the creator of this page User:Unoquha has to say. Keivan.f  Talk 23:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Disagree, I do not know of any evidence to support a notion that the word and title "Princess" was not used in Scotland and England before an 18th-century date. Her brother, Henry Frederick, was known as "Prince Henry" both in Scotland and England, and she was called both "Princess" and "Lady Elizabeth" before her marriage. In 1599, the Scottish royal accounts mention items bought for the "Ladie Princes Elizabeth" and "Princes Elizabeth" and the "Princes", as she was then called in the Scots language, some examples here, Letters to King James the Sixth (Edinburgh, 1835), pp. lxxiv, lxxiv, etc. I do not think she was called plain "Elizabeth Stuart" by her contemporaries, and modern historians generally refer to her as "Princess Elizabeth" before her marriage.Unoquha (talk) 08:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Interesting. It seems that the title was in use to some degree back then, but not in the form we know today. It's like the style Majesty for the monarch which was introduced during Henry VIII's time but it was not used exclusively until later on. Keivan.f  Talk 13:08, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Technically, in the case of her brother, he held the title of Prince of Wales, so that could also be a factor in him being called that.
 * 98.228.137.44 (talk) 22:11, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I hadn't actually seen any younger children of the monarchs called Prince or Princess, except the Prince of Wales. But nonetheless the title should still be consistent with the main article on her. estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:12, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.