Talk:Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome

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Miffed
I'm miffed at the ampersands inserted there instead of the 'and's. I'm sure there's a better way to do it, but "coma &, if untreated, death." is kinda silly.. Could we please change it back? Tarek 04:06, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Korsakoff's psychosis is the correct terminology.

Squatted
The website http://www.wernicke-korsakoff.com/ has been squatted by godaddy so it should be removed idk how —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.195.32 (talk) 23:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Popular
Carl Wernicke and Sergei Korsakoff "popularized" the respective illnesses? I didn't know an illness could be popularized... and I'm pretty sure it ain't popular. Extenebris 07:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ever heard of SARS? Bird Flu? Mad Cow disease? Now how many people do you know that have been aflicted by any of these diseases? I'm betting you can count them all on no fingers. Yet you know these diseases quite well. Why? The media "popularized" them. 140.146.194.5 17:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, "popularized" in that sense. Wernicke and Korsakoff weren't journalists, though.  The present version of the article is phrased much more carefully..nice job, whoever it was. Extenebris (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The structure of thiamine (B1) is wrong on this page--129.109.6.47 (talk) 14:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC).


 * "Popularized the definitions" of the illnesses, not the illnesses themselves. Surely.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.90.168 (talk) 11:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Treatment
This section worries me, it provides information that is unsubstantiated not written in balance and unreferenced. This needs to be corrected ASAP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyrewldn (talk • contribs) 22:49, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Merged
Should it be considered that this page is merged with this other Wikipedia page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korsakoff's_syndrome Petter, 20th of February 201389.134.182.43 (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Petter, you can always propose a merger, but the article is quite clear that Wernicke–Korsakoff is a combined manifestation of two eponymous disorders, Korsakoff's syndrome and Wernicke's encephalopathy. So, personally, I would not support merging.  Lova Falk     talk   11:50, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Merger with Article with Identical Name
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernicke-Korsakoff_Syndrome - Support. LT90001 (talk) 06:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed Merger
Hello to all! I am proposing a merge from the following articles into this article:
 * Korsakoff's syndrome
 * Wernicke's encephalopathy

This is for the following reasons:
 * These diseases share a similar pathophysiology, risk factors, and treatment. One (KS) very often develops from the other (WE).
 * Several authors also state that they believe there is a WE-KS spectrum, so this move is not unsupported by current literature.
 * It makes sense to have all the resources on one page with sections for each separate entity, rather than duplicate the same pathophysiology/treatment/risk factors on all three pages (this article and the two proposed mergees).
 * I think it would enhance readability of the content of all three articles to have this in one place.

Kind Regards, LT90001 (talk) 21:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. LT90001, you have convinced me.  Lova Falk     talk   08:29, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, ¿merge?
Wernicke's encephalopathy is more common, and also manifested before the Korsakoff, which seems a variant of Wernicke's disease. WE also includes cardiac aspects and now is called "W. disease". Korsakoff refers to psychosis, the psychiatric aspect. Therefore can be edited separately or psychosis may be included within Wernicke encephalopathy as an aspect of this disease. Regards.--Luis cerni (talk) 03:46, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

I asked the same question in the french version of wikipedia. I think it would be more clear to merge Wernicke-Korsakoff and korsakoff or make the article warnicke korsakoff very simple with a redirection towards korsakoff. --Ofix (talk) 17:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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1) The article about Wernicke's encephalopathy is very neat, with many references. It even has a section about Korsakoff, which could be extended from the content of this page. --2) What can we do with the film references? -- 3) Agree Korsakoff´s syndrome should be merged with Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.-- 4) There is much confusion, and work to do on the page about beriberi. --Luis cerni (talk) 14:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

As a result of changes (merge?) the link in the 'Signs and Symptoms' section to on "Korsakoff Psychosis" now just links back to this page. Angrhoiel (talk) 09:08, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Merge
Please Don't. There is a lot of information on this page that is strictly related to Korsakoff syndrome. My case study isn't showing symptoms of Wernicke and the Wernicke page already gives the information important to the overlapping WK symptoms. 67.189.0.11 (talk) 21:19, 19 January 2014 (UTC)mystawnya 1/19/2014

Keep Korsakoff syndrome as a separate section, that can be understood by people without a medical background. Having an informative entry about memory problems and confabulation associated with alcohol consumption and other causes, is likely to be informative to persons lacking medical background. People without a medical backgroun will not read a discussion of Wernicke-Korsakoff Encephalitis with a focus on the acute physical symptoms, physiology and pathology of the disorder.

Combining the two pages, Wernicke with Korsakoff Syndromes.
Yeah, I'd be in favor of it; Classically, the Syndromes of Wernicke-Korsakoff have been discussed together: The new page could have Wernicke syndrome as the first 1/2 of the combined subject and Korsakoff syndrome as the second 1/2. The outline could be as follows: I. Wernicke Syndrome,  II. Korsakoff Syndrome.  In this manner, none of the information will be lost when the two pages are combined. Thanks for your support. sincerely, 24.3.155.133 (talk) 02:45, 14 May 2014 (UTC)greg alan z.

Merge, again
There's no need to keep three pages for what is essentially a single clinical entity (thiamine deficiency), is there? They are generally studied together and even diagnosed together as WKS. On the other hand, we have a page for Addison disease and one for adrenal crisis, and that seems to work ok. Personally, the way I studied thiamine deficiency was as a single entity and that's how I think of it, so I'd naturally prefer them together. Anyway, whatever we do it should either be one single page, or two pages. Having three pages is just confusing and a bit silly. 151.65.184.180 (talk) 18:39, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Korsakoff's psychosis
Korsakoff's psychosis has redirected here for some time. I disagree with splitting it off based on the DSM II.

We already have an article on Korsakoff's syndrome

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:24, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Other causes for Wernicke-Korsakoff. That have absolutely nothing to do with alcohol.
Not enough information regarding other causes. Can anyone out there supply more information? I was diagnosed with non-alcoholic Wernicke-Korsakoff. I've had maybe a half a dozen drinks of alcohol over the course of my entire life, twenty years prior to my diagnosis. More information is needed about the many other causes for Wernicke-Korsakoff, especially given the negative, potentially shame inducing reactions being given to patients. Even my therapist tells me I might want to tell people I have a traumatic brain injury instead, in order to avoid people misunderstanding my medical condition and unfairly judging me because of the stupidity of tying this condition so closely to alcoholism. Any doctor types want to help to add additional information about the other causes? For example, Long-term Covid is causing very similar neurological symptoms. That really startled me when I read an article describing symptoms women were having (put out by the BBC?, if I'm remembering right). I keep forgetting to write down the sources of what I've read. Yes, I'm blaming the Wernicke-Korsakoff for that. I write down phone numbers too, but I forget to write down the name of the person the number belongs to. I have a pile of mystery numbers I keep meaning to call, but I'm to embarrassed to make the calls because I can't remember the name of the numbers owner. 68.187.129.132 (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Although I think you have legitimate personal concerns because your case is not related to alcohol, many cases are related to alcohol. In my opinion the article presents a balanced and properly weighted discussion of alcohol and non-alcohol causes. That being said, I think most people here would like to see any information you might have. Bear in mind, however, that WP:MEDRS prevails in determining acceptable sources for medical articles, including this one. That generally means review articles from peer-reviewed medical and biological journals, or statements from major scientific and medical organizations. Other publications from the popular press (or websites) typically are not acceptable. We also can't state conclusions that are not well-researched, so I don't think at this point we have enough to include COVID-19 as a cause. Feel free to identify any sources that you feel are relevant. But please read WP:MEDRS first. I also suggest reading WP:MEDFAQ and WP:WMEDRS. I appreciate your making the effort to discuss your concerns. Sundayclose (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2022 (UTC)