Talk:West Coast Customs

Angry outburst
RORY NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.127.124 (talk) 01:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Should we expand the article? Also "Street Customs" is no longer on the air  —Preceding unsigned comment added by TruckyTrice (talk • contribs) 10:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

This article sucks
It honestly reads like someone watched one episode of Street Customs, then penned-out the article. This is just sad, especially considering how big the company is. 71.35.22.153 (talk) 03:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Advertisement Brochure
In my opinion this article reads more like an advertisement brochure for the company. The article falls way short of the standard that I feel is required for a Wikipedia entry.

"Cast and crew" and "trademarks" sections
To IP user 71.92.65.250:

I am writing here about my revert: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=West_Coast_Customs&oldid=755719390

I view this IP edit to be suspect and vandalism. You re-inserted a section right in the middle of the history section, splitting it in a way that made no sense (sub-sections of History suddenly appeared under "Cast and Crew").

This article is not about the TV show. It is about the company. If you want to write about the TV show, please add your edits to Inside West Coast Customs. I have been working for hours fixing this article and getting it into a semi-presentable state. There was so much unsourced information in this article before. I am attempting to assume good faith, but since your IP originates in California, all of your edits since 2015 have been to the WCC article and the speed with which you were attracted to the article I feel you may be somewhat connected to WCC. I should remind you that editing articles about yourself or your company is a WP:COI (conflict of interest).

Now let's talk about the "Trademarks" section. This section is spammy and ad brochure like. Any other article about a company on this site, Microsoft, MakerBot, Apple does not list all of the trademarks they have. I see no reason to list trademarks which are just variations on the company name.

I still have much more clean up to do to get this article into a WP:NPOV (neutral point of view). There are controversies I have not yet covered which I do plan to, like the $150,000 fine WCC received from the US government for paying employees little and late. I would appreciate your help with the article (you did add something I was going to cover in more detail, the new Burbank facility), but only if you can keep a WP:NPOV and not be a WP:COI. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 20:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Another thing that makes me a little bit weary of you. You wrote "In early 2015 Ryan moved the headquarters to a new 60,000 sq/ft facility located in Burbank, CA." (and didn't include a source. Sources are vital on Wikipedia. You cannot just add things to articles without sources and expect people to believe them and other editors not to remove them. I know it's true, so I'm rewriting it.)
 * But you referred to Friedlinghaus as Ryan. This kind of familiarity with the people who work at WCC makes me suspicious of you combined with all the reasons above. Let's please be professional here, and refer to people related to WCC by their last names, as per WP:MOS and just general professional writing guidelines. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 20:20, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Notes to future editors
Your correct, "west coast Auto Trends" opened in 1998 or close to it. BanVal (talk) 01:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism by (self-described) West Coast Customs employees
71.92.65.250, an IP I warned in an earlier section, has proceeded to blank all criticism twice &. 2605:e000:9086:7d00:1056:c17e:85b3:a8fb blanked the page, calling their vandalism an "Official WCC ReEdit". During this wave of vandalism from multiple IP, some critical content was removed which editors did not notice, I have restored that now. Now that I know that WCC employees are actively engaged in attempts to vandalize this Wikipedia article I'll keep a closer eye on it. I encourage other editors to do likewise. They seem very upset that I rewrote their WP:ADVERT into an actual encyclopedia entry. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 15:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * More vandalism by . That account has fortunately already been blocked by an administrator. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 03:57, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Update: The article has been semi-protected until February 13 thanks to a request I made at WP:RPP. Hopefully WP:COI editors will now either engage with us in discussion about their problems with the article or simply give up on blanking the page... Psiĥedelisto (talk) 10:31, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2017
Section involving alleged criticism cites a fake website created under the name USA Today [5] "Allegations of quality" are worded in a slanderous way and Jake Glazier himself stated he would "happily participate again if given the chance". Allegations by Trisha Paytas are unsubstantiated and were a publicity scheme created my Ms Paytas, this is evident in the lack of legal action taken in part by Ms Paytas. She has also publicly stated that she is very happy with the build and continues to drive around with the West Coast Customs license plates on her vehicle to this day. Section citing Mauricio Hernández should be omitted because Mr Hernández no longer has a licensee agreement with West Coast Customs and is in violation of copy right and trademark law. Mr. Hernández has been making erroneous claims to strengthen the legal case against him. This is a pending litigation and should be removed until judgement by the Federal Court has been passed. Many of the edits by user Psiĥedelisto cite fake or fabricated websites and his information being posted seems to be slanderous based on personal motivations. 2605:E000:9086:7D00:DD6B:35EB:B532:1B72 (talk) 06:25, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: I've added an archive link to the USA Today reference. I don't see any other and request does not clearly specify a requested change  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 07:16, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I trust that you saw the above, someone in the range 2605:E000:9086:7D00:DD6B:35EB:/64 has claimed to be a WCC employee via edit summary/talk page before, so just to keep in mind the COI. The claims of this user are completely unfounded, my edits on Wikipedia are on a wide variety of topics, and I wrote this article after seeing the company featured on a Netflix show and looking for information about them online and finding nothing on Wikipedia but a POV ad seemingly written by the company (later confirmed by the employees above). I have absolutely no relationship to any of the parties involved.
 * Now, with that said, I am a firm believer in Wikipedia, and I believe that the company can have a say in how its page is written, but that they should not be able to dictate what we write here, but should follow WP:PSCOI and not just blank/vandalize and make personal attacks. I am attempting to assume good faith that even though you have an extreme COI with this article's content, you can improve the article; you should have the courtesy to do the same for me because I am really just one of millions of volunteer editors who just so happened to write about your company.
 * What this means for you,, is that I'm happy to add anything you'd like if it presents a neutral point of view. I would be very happy to add that Mr. Hernandez is being sued by WCC if you can provide a reliable source for this, but removing the section about his franchise entirely is not possible, because it was covered repeatedly by Mexican publications; if Tuneame la nave gets a 2017 season on Azteca or otherwise, I'm sure it will be covered further. Wikipedia does not shy away from controversy and just write nothing: it covers both sides of the conflict. Once again, I would be happy to add an official WCC statement about Hernandez, but I only put his statements because I couldn't find yours. I look forward to your reformulated edit request. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 07:41, 6 February 2017 (UTC)