Talk:West Midlands Bus route 11

Coordinates
I would like to add a table of coordinates, like that on, for example Netherton Tunnel Branch Canal. I think this should include the points where the route crosses each major arterial road. Any comments? Would anyone be willing to collaborate? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 10:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Name
I recently moved this article to Birmingham Outer Circle bus route. Another editor immediately moved it back to West Midlands bus route 11, with the edit summary "Move back to standard naming. Discuss controversial moves first". How is this "standard", and how is the Birmingham version "controversial"? The route followed by #11 buses is the Birmingham Outer Circle, and it is by this name that the service is known. I've never, ever, heard it referred to as the "West Midlands bus route 11". Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose move - Countrywide there is an unwritten standard of naming bus route articles in the form of " bus route ", this move would go against that standard. The article is about the bus route numbered 11, which happens to be also known as the outer circle. The redirect does the job just fine. A38(M) motorway is probably more commonly refered to as the Aston Expressway, but we don't go moving that article, again, there is a redirect to serve that purpose. Jeni  ( talk ) 20:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)