Talk:Western New England University School of Law

Employment and cost data
I have been adding cost and post-graduation employment information to the Wikipedia articles of a number of law schools, including Western New England University School of Law. J-vinton7 (talk) has repeatedly edited the article to minimize the visibility of such information, remove information about the total cost of attendance, and remove context for understanding the school's employment data:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_New_England_University_School_of_Law&diff=617858729&oldid=617615066
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_New_England_University_School_of_Law&diff=617601006&oldid=616702274

I believe including robust information about post-graduation employment prospects is very important since law schools are professional programs that should enable their graduates to obtain jobs as lawyers. I believe it is appropriate to include a sentence about employment outcomes in the article's introduction because the data provide a neutral evaluation of how well the school accomplishes that goal and the information is highly important to potential students.

There are a variety of ways to report post-graduation employment outcomes, but I believe the best approach is to focus on the percentage of graduates with long-term, full-time bar passage-required jobs, excluding solo practitioners (this is the methodology used by Law School Transparency, the rationale for which is explained on its website). Furthermore, the deletion of information about how Western New England University School of Law's employment statistics compare to those of other ABA-accredited law schools deprives readers of appropriate context for interpreting the school's employment statistics.

While it is fine to mention the cost of tuition as its own factor in the cost section, tuition alone does not accurately reflect the full cost of attendance at any law school. I believe accurate information about the total costs of attendance (including fees and living expenses) is relevant and should not be minimized by only including the cost of tuition.

If other users would like to weigh in on this, I'd be happy to hear from them!

--Oxie.tls (talk) 16:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I think post-graduation employment outcomes are positive additions to the website. I thought there was some repeat that did not really fit in the intro. Also, the one statistic was cited from one person's blog, and was a fairly narrow statistic that could be misinterpreted. Overall, the substance of your additions are intact. J-vinton7 (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Advertisement tag
This page does not read like and advertisement. It is all factual information about the College. I believe this tage should be removed. Please respond. Bpayne4001 (talk) 18:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)BPayne4001


 * It seems to me that many of your edits are out-of-line and totally focused on making the college appear in a good light. Such examples include removing information from The Westerner student newspaper and the most pivotal moment in the school's last twenty years... namely that a student was kidnapped by an alumnus and then sexually assaulted many miles away before being returned to campus.  I understand that you are paid to make WNEC seem like utopia, but some of these edits smack of blatant whitewashing.  I am all for you editing so long as it is more the ADD information than to REMOVE it, which seems to be your modus operandi. You should also disclose your affiliation with the college on your user page. --Jajablanks (talk) 21:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Provide diffs for any specific accusation or it is going to be ignored. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest
I have made updates to the Western New England College entries in an effort keep them factually accurate and expand their content to fully encompass all relevant facts about the College. During the course of my work on this project, I have increased the content of the Western New England College entries considerably and have create several new pages for notable people, places, and things in relation to the College. I would like to continue to expand and update the entries so that they remain up-to-date with the changes of the College. Bpayne4001 (talk) 14:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)BPayne4001

=Merge Advice=

I recommend that we move the bulk of the School of Law section into the that article, as it portrays facts specific to the School of Law and not the College in general.

=Enrollment=

The enrollment here is inconsistant with the enrollment in the Western New England College article. Does this figure represent something different?

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)