Talk:Westland Whirlwind (helicopter)

On your page for the Westland Whirlwind helicopter you sometimes include a space in the type designation and sometimes not. I wanted to make this consistent but didn't want to make this consistently wrong; which should it be? --Morven 18:59, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * Truly I have no idea. I checked, and the RAF Museum has both uses on the same page, so I'm guessing it isn't important. Feel free to pick one. DJ Clayworth 19:03, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Infobox mistake?
Introduced 1950, maiden flight 1953? If the earlier dat erefers to the Sikorsky H-19, isn't this still incorrect as British built versions of Sikorsky products usually differed somewhat? Douglasnicol (talk) 21:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have changed introduced to 1954 when the first Whirlwind HAR1s were delivered to the RN. MilborneOne (talk) 22:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Whirlwind?
Is this a Whirlwind?
 * Yes.Nigel Ish (talk) 23:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Operators
Did France really operated the westland variant ? I read that was built locally by Sud-Est --Jor70 (talk) 00:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I have a S-55 Srs 1 registered 1953 as G-AMYN and then to the French Navy in April 1954. And I believe also operated by the Air Force and the Army, at least one image of an Army operated is on the internet - http://www.paulnann.com/Country.asp?Country=France&Make=Westland&Family=Whirlwind&ImageRef=pn_w4593.jpg MilborneOne (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You seem to be right! just curious how they ended there. Perhaps sud-est get a sublicence from Westland ? like Westland did with agusta's bell 47 ?--Jor70 (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 37 Whirlwind HAR.2s were delivered to the French Navy during 1954-56 according to Westland Aircraft since 1915, with one WS-55-1 ex G-AMYN to the French Navy and a further six WS-55-1s to France (with no operator stated) I suspect that there must be some double counting going on here to make the production figures add up. And according to Jane's 1953-54, Sud Est did have a license to build the S.55.  Curious...Nigel Ish (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

HAR.9 question
The article states: HAR.9 6 conversions of HAS.7 with a Bristol Siddeley Gnome gas turbine replacing the Leonides Major engine, RN service I have personally flown 10 different airframes. I cannot say whether they were conversions or new builds. The aircraft referred to are: XN258,XL875, XN311, XN306, XN309, XL389,, XN384, XN298, XN294, XN387 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.45.128 (talk) 10:39, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Their were 12 conversions from HAS.7's:
 * XL839, XL800 XL875, XL880 & XL898 from original contract 6/Acft/18221/CB.9(b)
 * XM666 from original contact 6/Acft/15633/CB.9(b)
 * XN298, XN306, XN309, XN310, XN311 & XN357 from original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)
 * Apparently there were 16 conversion altogether according to the same book.
 * The serials you provided:
 * XL389 = Conversion from HAS.7 - original contract 6/Acft/18221/CB.9(b)
 * XL875 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract 6/Acft/18221/CB.9(b)
 * XN258 = Conversion from HAS.7 - 1966
 * XN298 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)
 * XN306 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)
 * XN309 = Conversion from HAS.7 - 1965? - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)
 * XN311 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)
 * XN384 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown
 * XN387 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown

Gavbadger (talk) 16:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Just to add: That makes 17! MilborneOne (talk) 19:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) HAS7 XL839 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 19 November 1965
 * 2) HAS7 XL875 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 16 March 1966
 * 3) HAS7 XL880 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 9 November 1966
 * 4) HAS7 XL898 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 8 March 1966
 * 5) HAS7 XL899 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 4 February 1966
 * 6) HAS7 XL900 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 26 August 1966
 * 7) HAS7 XM666 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 27 September 1966
 * 8) HAS7 XN258 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 7 February 1966
 * 9) HAS7 XN298 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 5 July 1966
 * 10) HAS7 XN306 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 4 April 1966
 * 11) HAS7 XN309 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 10 May 1966
 * 12) HAS7 XN310 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 15 October 1965
 * 13) HAS7 XN311 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 22 April 1966
 * 14) HAS7 XN359 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 21 December 1965
 * 15) HAS7 XN384 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 3 December 1965
 * 16) HAS7 XN386 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 22 July 1966
 * 17) HAS7 XN387 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 27 May 1966

More specs?
Would anybody happen to have specs on any of the planes upgrade to the Gnome turboprop engine? Kamnet (talk) 05:07, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

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Missing Aircraft
Is The Whirlwind HAR2 helicopter XJ436 still at the bottom of the sea. My father was on the rescue mission that gave up on it's recovery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariegriffiths (talk • contribs) 15:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)