Talk:Westman's Bagel & Coffee/GA1

GA Review
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Nominator: 19:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk · contribs) 14:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Bagels and coffee?? TWOrantula TM (enter the web) 14:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Only gonna do initial comments for this review. I will be back in a couple of hours.  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 14:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Apologies if the review seems to be delayed. I have schoolwork I need to catch up on (as is for everyone).  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 03:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries at all! There's no rush here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Another Believer: I have finished your review.  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 01:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @TrademarkedTWOrantula I think I've addressed your concerns, but please let me know if any issues remain. Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Copyright violations

 * Quite concerning. Top result is at a 49% similarity; one paragraph is even copied word-for-word.
 * The paragraph is attributed appropriately in the Reception section. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Images

 * I'm not sure why there are three different images of the same location. Couldn't the third image (in the reception section) suffice?
 * I have replaced one with a photo of the University District location. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Lead

 * Monica Dimas and Molly Westman opened the original location on Capitol Hill in January 2018, and a second shop followed in the University District in 2022. -> "Monica Dimas and Molly Westman opened a location on Capitol Hill in January 2018 and another in the University District in 2022."
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Cut "a variety of"
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Link sandwich
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * specifically for its bagels and bagon, egg, and cheese sandwich (more than one thing was focused on)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Description

 * What's a "walkup counter"? Do you go to the desk and order some food right from there?
 * There's a counter and register right at the sidewalk. See File:Seattle in Dec. 2022 - 014.jpg --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * super-cute outdoor 'diner,' a tiny wedge of life - Reception?
 * I've trimmed this a bit. I think it is helpful to keep mention of "diner" in the Description section. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * with framed art and three bright yellow stools -> "...with framed art and three stools."
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The Seattle Times has described the business' New York–style bagels as "fat and dense, but with a good, tight honeycomb of very small air bubbles inside". - I'm not sure how the description of the bagels is relevant here.
 * I would think a description of the bagels is most appropriate for the Menu section. Where would you want this to be moved? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Link schmear
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * in various flavors
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Brownies and chocolate chip cookies? As in, you get them together?
 * As in the brownies and the CC cookies both have tahini. I changed "and" to "as well as". --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Link sandwich
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What kind(s) of juice?
 * I don't recall coming across anything more specific. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What kind(s) of tea?
 * I don't recall coming across anything more specific. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

History

 * previously announced ("report" is a word to watch)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Not sure why Westman and Dimas aren't credited as chefs in the infobox
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * media outlets reported - Whoop. There it is again!
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Does Westman's Bakeshop specifically sell pastries (and only pastries)?
 * The shop did not come to fruition. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait, come to think of it, I don't see coffee anywhere on the menu. Is there coffee??
 * The article says, "Westman's serves espresso from Caffé Vita Coffee Roasting Company." --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Link The Ave
 * I don't see this in the prose. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, it's its former name, University Way Northeast. Linked.  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 03:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Replace COVID-19 link with COVID-19 pandemic in Washington (state)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Reception

 * Westman's was popular upon opening. - Cut.
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * may sell out?
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The website included Westman's in a 2022 list of breakfast sandwiches in the city "worth waking up early to get". - Feel like this should be the last sentence in this section (since we're going in chronological order)
 * I wanted to keep the Eater Seattle claims together. Reception sections are a mix of grouping content by publication and by chronology. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's how I'm gonna reword the block of text:
 * "...and opined that although she praised the shop's menu, she stated that the long lines may hinder the business."
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * She wrote, "It's the best breakfast sandwich in the city—a little taste of New York right here in Seattle." -> "She wrote that it was the 'best breakfast sandwich' in Seattle, noting its inspiration from New York."
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * "has long been a favorite by the Emerald City's bagel connoisseurs" -> "...has gained a positive reputation among Seattleites"?
 * ✅, but I went with "garnered" instead of "gained". --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * "Westman's bagels don't quite succeed at replicating what you'll find in NYC (where bagels are more dense), but they're still pretty good." -> "...Westman's bagels '[didn't] quite succeed' at replicating a NYC bagel."
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Spotchecking
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