Talk:Weyland-Yutani/Archive 1

sectionize
I've put the content on this page into sections, but some of those are unnecessary, or replicate other sections. If I had more time then I'd try to beat it into shape, but I don't, so hopefully someone else (or an older, wiser me) will do the job. --Sheridan (talk) 02:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a start. I considered heavily revising the page once, but it's quite an undertaking. Thanks for laying the groundwork. --Teflon Don (talk) 03:37, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Angel
It's worth noting that in a Season 5 episode of Joss Whedon's TV show Angel, the evil law firm Angel and company run/work for mentions a list of clients, and Wayland/Yutani is mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.30.69.200 (talk) 20:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Google
I found this on Google: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frap (talk • contribs) 12:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC

UAC from Doom
There should be a reference to the UAC from the Doom series of games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.73.62 (talk) 04:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Contradiction in Cobb statement
The Ron Cobb statement says, "one letter gives me 'Weylan'"... only of course it doesn't; you'd have to change the initial consonant and drop the final "d." Is the Cobb statement wrong, or was Cobb's version Weyland not Weylan? -- Orange Mike (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Cobb may have made a mistake in describing his story. However, if one was to look at the screens on the Nostromo and on the beer cans, the spelling of the Company's name is "Weylan Yutani"; with no "d" or hyphen.
 * I cannot name the source, but when asked about the name change in Aliens, James Cameron did admit to not researching the background materials from Alien in too great of detail. --Maledoro (talk) 13:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kanji
Can anyone get a screen cap of the Japanese listing of the company name mentioned in Alien³? I'm curious as to what kanji are used and would like to try and translate them. --LauraOrganaSolo (talk) 19:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * From what I had read, the symbols are pronounced "Weyland Yutani kabushiki-kaisha" and mean "Weyland Yutani joint-stock corporation". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maledoro (talk • contribs) 18:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Weyland the Smith: Relevant?
Cobb said, "I wanted to imply that poor old England is back on its feet and has united with the Japanese, who have taken over the building of spaceships". Since Weyland/Wayland is an English smith, a god of makers of things from metal, I felt (like a prior editor who'd inserted this) that it was relevant. Is this unreasonable, or just O.R.? -- Orange Mike (talk) 15:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It's original research, there's nothing in the quote to suggest that Cobb intended a religious connection. In fact, Cobb explicitly points out that he took the name of "British Leyland" and changed one letter, so it's unreasonable and original research. --McGeddon (talk) 15:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't see how it's anything but original research. No such connection is made anywhere in any official literature regarding the series as far as I'm aware. He'd need reliable, third-party sources in order to make such a claim suitable for Wikipedia. (It would also be helpful if you'd indicate when you're duplicating questions on user's talk pages, so people don't duplicate effort responding.) --Xihr (talk) 21:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Alien vs. Predator
From seeing Weyland in the first AvP film and Ms. Yutani in the second one (Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem) is it correct to say that these films take place before the Alien films and after the Predator films? --TFunk (talk) 03:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Given Hollywood's contempt for continuity, consistency, etc. ("Hey, it's just that sci-fi crap!"), I'd have to tag that as original research. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  19:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * That's actually true and I could cite it if you desire. Both Anderson and the Strause Brothers have said in interviews that AVP and AVP:R serve as prequels to the Alien films and sequels to the Predator films. But since that's something that's been stated so openly, I thought it was just common knowledge. --Bishop2 (talk) 19:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Bought out by Wal-Mart in Alien-res
The company was bought out by Wal-Mart. Should be significant and mentioned in the article. -G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 23:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * To clarify what this user is saying: in the special edition of Alien Resurrection, when Ripley tells the military guys that "She'll breed. You'll die. Everyone in the company will die", they ask "what company?". General Perez interjects: "Weyland-Yutani, Ripley's former employer." They remark that W-Y hasn't existed for many years, and Dr. Wren remarks that it was "bought out by Wal-Mart." This may be worth mentioning in the context of the article, but since it's currently recommended that the article be merged with Alien (franchise) I'm not going to add anything to it at this time. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Racial/Geographic Significance
When I think about the name of the company, I think the writers really want viewers to know this company is both Western and Asian. In the future, who knows if the pound or the yen will be dominant? Will Cologne or Shanghai be the business center? So they chose a white and yellow name. Does anyone strongly disagree or agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.228.129.9 (talk) 22:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The name comes from the combination of Weyland Industries (named after its founder Charles Bishop Weyland, as revealed in Alien vs. Predator) and another unspecified company headed by a Ms. Yutani (as revealed in Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem). The idea of a western/asian combination company is rather obvious, especially when you see the white Lance Henriksen playing Weyland and Françoise Yip (who is Chinese and French-Canadian) playing Ms. Yutani. It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's revealed in the films. As the article already discusses, Ron Cobb came up with the name while working on Alien, intending to suggest a British/Japanese business alliance: "I wanted to imply that poor old England is back on its feet and has united with the Japanese, who have taken over the building of spaceships the same way they have now with cars and supertankers." On that note, talk pages are for discussing improvements to the article, not for general coversation about the article's subject. Please note the talk page guidelines at the top of the page. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Notability
It's at least as notable as this: And certainly a lot more interesting. --74.184.5.4 (talk) 05:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * That argument is invalid for 2 reasons:
 * Piplup is not notable enough to have an independent article; it's part of a long "list of Pokemon" article series.
 * "It's notable" and "it's interesting" are both arguments to avoid. Both statements mean nothing unless there are sufficient secondary sources to show that the subject is notable outside of just being part of the franchise.
 * --IllaZilla (talk) 06:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Appearance in Blade Runner
In the scene in Blade Runner where the flying police car takes off, the CGI from Alien is re-used, and I believe the company name appears briefly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Federicodecara (talk • contribs) 13:45, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Source? Also, there was no CGI in Alien. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Merging into Aliens (film series) works for me.
This fictional corporation, outside some homage references, exists only in the Aliens series, and so it would seem to me that would be a good place to have it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.9.200.130 (talk) 21:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Support! Merge this sucker! --The Red Queen (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Reject : The Alien (franchise) article is already too long - if you merge this into it, then a) that article will become too long b) that article will be unbalanced c) information in this article would have to be culled. Exactly why is this merger being proposed? What is the rationale for the proposal? That something doesn't have many references outside its original fictional universe doesn't seem to be a very strong argument (do Ewoks outside of Star Wars? Or the Gorn in Star Trek?). Also the Alien (franchise) article is about the franchise as a whole, and not individual components within it. Go look at that article -it is not a suitable place.
 * Further the Alien prequel by Ridley Scott will also feature the company (he has mentioned this in interviews), and so more information is likely to be added in the future. --The Yeti (talk) 02:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


 * If the franchise article is too long, that's a reason to trim it down. It's full of unnecessary crap like plot summaries that are already presented in the individual film articles. Weyland-Yutani does not satisfy the notability criteria for a stand-alone article, as it has not received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Appearance in V (2010)
During the episode aired on April 20th, 2010, there was a representative of Weyland-Yutani Corp (evidenced by the placard on the table) at the UN summit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.248.27 (talk) 13:13, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * So? --IllaZilla (talk) 15:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * If you can source that, then its a notable mention of its appearance in other films (bit like Oceanic Airlines). --The Yeti (talk) 02:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)