Talk:Weymouth, Massachusetts

Trivia section
Shouldn't the "Reference" section be differently titled? Most of the information in there is just trivia. The only one in there that is a reference is the one where it's referenced from the movie. I think it should be retitled to "Trivia".

--Schlagwerk 16:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Nicknames
A few informal nicknames for Weymouth have been added to this article in the past, but none of them appear to really be mainstream or widely accepted.

The usual suspects are "Weytown" and "The Dub". I haven't been able to find any literature from the city where it calls itself either of those names, neither seems to appear in the Patriot Ledger archives, and I don't even see any businesses using those names in the phone book. The only places I do find either of these names is on the Web, and then it's pretty much limited to MySpace and a defunct personal bulletin board.

A "real" nickname will be easy to verify. I can find loads of written evidence that Boston calls itself "Beantown", Plymouth calls itself "America’s Hometown", Brockton calls itself "City of Champions" (and used to be widely known as "Shoe City"), and Massachusetts calls itself "The Bay State". Evidence is sorely lacking for the Weymouth nicknames.

Before any more nicknames go into the article, can we get some evidence that the town (as opposed to a few kids on MySpace) actually calls itself by them? --iMeowbot~Meow 02:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Nicknames Response
Rarely do I chime in to these discussions, but your recent posting caused me some concern so I thought I would reply.

According to Wikipedia, “One of Wikipedia's core policies is that articles must be written from a "neutral point of view", presenting all noteworthy perspectives on an issue along with the evidence supporting them. Wikipedia articles do not attempt to determine an objective truth on their subjects, but rather to describe them impartially balancing all significant viewpoints.”

Turning to the question of nicknames, Merriam-Webster defines a nickname as: 1 : a usually descriptive name given instead of or in addition to the one belonging to a person, place, or thing 2 : a familiar form of a proper name (as of a person or a city)

I would argue that “Weytown” or “The Dub” are two nicknames for Weymouth. They are familiar forms of a proper name. I am 31, a former resident of Weymouth, and have both heard and used the terms. I also know of many people from Weymouth who have heard and used the nicknames. While I would admit I haven’t heard many octogenarians refer to Weymouth as “The Dub”, most of the young people of Weymouth use the name, including all of its offshoots: E-Dub (East Weymouth), S-Dub (South Weymouth), N-Dub (North Weymouth) amd Dub-Dub (Weymouth Landing). In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a person in Weymouth under 25 who hasn’t heard the nicknames. If we use the demographics from the site, this accounts for about 28.6% of the town, which is a significant number. (Please note, this figure would be slightly lower if you discount children who are not of school age.)

So, if we are to keep with the Wikipedia spirit in remaining neutral by balancing all significant viewpoints, we should not censor the nicknames. We might want to list them as unofficial nicknames, but we should not dismiss them. The nice thing about Wikipedia is that it is not static. It provides up to the date information on people, places, and things. It’s also a great resource to use when “official” sources lag behind. For example, prior to this summer the terms “supersize”, “unibrow”, and the verb “google” did not exist in the dictionary, although they were all commonly used words. Wikipedia had entries on each, which is why many people use the site.

In closing, I will call you out on your challenge. You claim, “a ‘real’ nickname will be easy to verify.” Well, once the school year starts, walk into Weymouth High School and do a survey. You will find everyone uses the nicknames. Heck, the principal probably does too! 68.33.172.126BMan. — Preceding undated comment added 22:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "The Dub" is just about the most annoying nickname for a town, ever. And I've never heard anyone call Weymouth Landing "dub-dub" but that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard. I'm glad someone deleted the nicknames from the Weymouth Wiki page. BTW, i'm 21 and i had NO idea Weymouth was called "the dub" until I started looking at Weymouth kids' myspace pages, haha -me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.42.53 (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I have also heard these nicknames as well, but mostly from youths under the age of 24. I don't think these nicknames should be posted yet seeing as they have not been published in any newspapers, or on the official town website. I believe the nickname "The Dub" has been used for other cities and towns as well just like nicknames like "westside" or "east bumfuck". I think when we start seeing this nickname posted in the local paper or patriot ledger then we can add them. For now the only real sources are myspace pages and Facebook pages. Debellorobert (talk) 00:54, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

"defunct" personal bulletin board
If you meant weytown.net, it is not defunct. My friend completely designed that site, and the members still use it as a way to keep in touch now that we are off to college. The name was chosen because we do commonly use weytown as a nickname for Weymouth, as did many of the people in Weymouth High (wey-hi) and Junior High schools. It may not be an "official" nickname (that seems contradictory), but it is a nickname nonetheless, in common use by a significant number of Weymouth residents (my parents, older sister, and younger sisters all recognize the name). Just because it doesn't show up on google doesn't mean we locals don't use it. In my opinion, this is exactly the kind of thing that wikipedia is for - spreading knowledge that wouldn't be found in "official" publications, such as less-common nicknames. Maybe a better way to present "weytown" as a nickname would be to qualify it as originating from Weymouth students and spreading into the community that way.

PS - "the dub" is the stupidest nickname I've ever heard, but I HAVE heard it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.130.100.182 (talk) 20:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Harper Lee?
The page lists Harper Lee as a resident of Weymouth. This seems strange considering her Southern heritage, and I can't find a source for this. Cank 19:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * page also lists the town as "humid subtropical", which the linked article describes as "mostly gulf states".
 * is there a weymouth GEORGIA or somewhere that someone has confused here? 209.172.23.169 (talk) 07:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Mayor Kay
The page should be updated by someone with more info, but according to the Weymouth Mayor page, Sue Kay is the new mayor Darth Cookie Monster (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought Susan Kay was originally from Boston not Alaska!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.29.98 (talk) 19:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Ukelele Museum
Is there an address? I am unaware of a Ukelele Museum in Weymouth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanleyramon (talk • contribs) 14:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Dare Program
I think it should be mentioned in here somewhere that th D.A.R.E. program was dropped due to lack of funding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.245.32.210 (talk) 19:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.41.115 (talk) 00:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Execution reference
There is no conclusive evidence that the man whom the settlers of Weymouth executed was a sick, old man. One source (see Adams, Jr., Charles Francis. Proceedings on the Two Hundred and Fiftieth Anniversary of the Permanent Settlment of Weymouth. Boston: Wright & Potter, 1874., available on Google Books) does not mention this, while another source (http://books.google.com/books?id=Jrg5AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA701&dq=they+pretended+to+hang+the+thief,+but+hung+in+his+stead+%22&ei=5SNnS4SFGpymNb6koPAN&cd=1#v=onepage&q=they%20pretended%20to%20hang%20the%20thief%2C%20but%20hung%20in%20his%20stead%20%22&f=false) does. This is by no means conclusive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenndog04 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Pictures?
I'd be willing to post some pictures of town landmarks. Would they be taken down? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SgtPasteur (talk • contribs) 23:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Watson?
Thomas Watson is listed as a resident. It was my understanding that he lived across the river in Braintree and only used the Weymouth Landing Post Office as his mailing address (Nameplates for the Fore River Engine Company are inscribed with Weymouth). Did he actually live in Weymouth at some point, or is he merely a posthumous resident? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.163.216 (talk) 00:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Town/city; Weymouth001/Weymouth002
states on their talk page that they are unrelated to. Obviously there is some connection, but whatever.

Neither one has explained the basis for their edits here -- no edit summaries, no meaningful talk page discussion. Both are single purpose accounts. If either one would care to explain why they believe their version is correct, I'm all ears. I'm also open to opinions from other editors, of course. Otherwise, I'll let it sit for a couple of days, take a look at the paltry sources and decide how to handle it. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:51, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Lacking discussion from anyone, I've looked at the sources and made my call. Any other opinions or are we done here? - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 15:27, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Dick Donovan
As I said in my edit summaries, there is no proof he was ever from Weymouth. His obituary (Do note that I regularly state obituaries fail WP:RS for most information but I and other editors do agree that they can be used for dates of birth and death and places) in the Boston Herald, has him from Cohasset. His SABR biography has many mentions of his connection to Quincy, Massachusetts. In fact, Donovan is listed in that town's notable people section. He did die in Weymouth but place of death isn't a criteria for listing in notable people sections. Living in a community is. This per consensus via multiple discussions that can be found in the Talk Page archives of WikiProject Cities. Think of this also, if place of death is a criteria for listing someone as from that community, JFK is from Dallas Texas and notable airplane passengers who died at the WTC on 9-11 are from New York City. That is pretty silly....William 11:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Wituwamat
“...Wituwamat, a large man who had belittled Standish because he was short and had bragged about murdering a number of French shipwreck survivors.” Was Standish belittled because he had bragged about murdering a number of French shipwreck survivors, or had Wituwamat bragged about that? I suspect the latter but I don’t know. If it was Wituwamat who had bragged about the murder we could state that first and then add that he belittled Standish because he was short. Either way, what is the source for this story? Thomas144 (talk) 13:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)