Talk:Wharton School/Archive 1

Undergrad?
I'm surprised to read that Wharton has an undergrad program! If you're an undergrad, aren't you just "at UPenn"? Do people selectively claim they "graduated Wharton" or they "graduated UPenn" as the mood fits?

Do undergrads really say they "go to Wharton"? I always assumed that meant MBA! 66.3.106.1 (talk) 19:48, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Prominent Wharton Alumni
A user under the Nick of Dpbsmithhas removed a list of renown alumni from the Wharton School. He has unilateraly decided to erase some of the most prominet leader formed at Wharton but apparently do not "live near him/her".

Given the importance of the list erased I would urge a curator to 1. restore the old list and 2. eventually to create a MBA listing separately from that of the wharton school

The efforts put up by the Wharton School in establishing a sound international network of leaders is sometimes clouded by action of people who have little knowlege.... Thank you

US Supreme Court Justices(s)
While William Brennan graduated from Wharton, I do not believe Owen Roberts did, so I think the introductory statement meeds revision. Correct if I am mistaken.

Philadelphia
I have removed this generic information about Philadelphia, most of which does not bear even tangentially on the Wharton School itself. I am placing it here in case there is anything worth merging into our article on Philadelphia. Dpbsmith (talk) 21:19, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Never mind. All of it was a copyvio from http://mba.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/community/philadelphia/philly_life.php so I'm just removing it altogether. Dpbsmith (talk) 02:26, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Removing some entries from "Industry" section of alumni

 * Anil D. Ambani, co-CEO, Reliance Industries
 * Luiz Augusto Heeren, CEO, British-American Tobacco
 * Robert W. Baker, Vice Chairman, American Airlines
 * Julian A. Brodsky, CEO and Chairman, Comcast Interactive Capital
 * Robert B. Cavanaugh, CFO, J.C. Penny
 * Frank Cerminara, CEO and CFO, Hersey
 * Stephen Cooper, Interim CEO, Enron
 * Robert L. Crandall, Chairman and CEO of American Airlines, Inc
 * Jerome Fisher, Founder, CEO and Chairman Emeritus, Nine West Group
 * Rakesh Gangwal, CEO and Chairman, US Airways Group
 * C. Christopher Gaut, CFO, Halliburton
 * Robert B. Goergen, Founder, CEO and Chairman, Blyth
 * Stanley Goldstein, Founder, CEO and Chairman, CVS
 * Paul R B Harner, Chairman, Berkmont Industries
 * Robert M. Hernandez, Vice Chairman and CFO, USX Corporation
 * Lee S. Hillman, Chairman, CEO, Bally Total Fitness
 * Donald D. Humphreys, COO, Exxon Mobil
 * Regonald Jones, Former Chairman and CEO, General Electric
 * W. Leo Kiely, III, President and COO, Coors Brewing Company
 * Michael Kowalski, President and CEO, Tiffany
 * Dwayne Lamont Rayner, CEO, Renaissance Capital Management
 * Leonard A. Lauder, Founder, Chairman and CEO, Estee Lauder Companies
 * Arnold J. Palmer, Chairman and CEO, Hudson Industries Corporation
 * Manuel Pangilinan, CEO and Chairman, First Pacific
 * Ronald O. Perelman, Chairman and CEO, MacAndrews & Forbes Group
 * Lou Platt, Chairman and CEO, Boeing
 * Robert Potamkin, Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Planet Automotive Group
 * Edmund T. Pratt, Jr., CEO and Chairman Emeritus, Pfizer
 * Geralyn R Breig, CEO, Godiva International
 * Brian L. Roberts, President and CEO, Comcast Corporation
 * Jean-Pierre C. Rosso, CEO and Chairman, CNH Global N.V.
 * Rick Simonson, President, Nokia
 * Susan M. Stalnecker, Vice President, Du Pont
 * Howard R. Suslak, Co-CEO and Chairman, Mac Donald and Company
 * Nicholas F. Taubman, CEO and Chairman, Advance Auto Parts
 * James S. Tisch, CEO, Loews Corporation
 * Laurence A. Tisch, Chairman, Loews Corporation
 * Kenneth L. Wolfe, CEO and Chairman, Hersey Foods
 * Richard D. Wood, CEO and Chairman, Eli Lilly and Company
 * Peter T. Worthen, CEO and Chairman, Schreiber Corporation
 * Klaus Zumwinkel, Chairman and CEO, DHL

Most of these are probably correct, but I'm removing these because we don't have articles on them. I haven't yet checked the entries for which we do have articles, but presumably when checked they will indicate that these people do hold the positions stated and are, in fact, Wharton alumni.

These can be reinserted when, per verifiability policy, they are accompanied with source citations. These could be web links to corporate bios on corporation websites, but they ought to confirm that the person is a Wharton grad and does in fact hold the stated position. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:57, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

And likewise for "High Tech"

 * Paolo G. Alberoni, Co-Founder and Chairman Eximia RFID
 * Jim Bankoff, Former CEO and President of Netscape.
 * Sundeep Bhan, Chairman, President, and CEO, Medsite.com, Inc.
 * David M. Buckley, EVP, Technical Operations, Biogen
 * Sharon A. Fordham, CEO, WeightWatchers.com
 * Richard D. Forman, Chairman, President, and CEO, register.com
 * Jeffrey E Grass, Co-Founder, PayMyBills.com and CEO, buySAFE
 * Steven James Lee, Chairman and CEO, PolyMedica
 * Allan C. Kwan, Chairman and CEO, Asia.com
 * Olukunle Malomo, President and CEO, HummingBox Communications
 * Farhad Mohit, Chairman and Founder, Bizrate.com
 * Elizabeth A. Nelson, Former CEO and CFO of Macromedia
 * Brett O'Brien, Chairman, Xdrive Technologies
 * Bilal Ojjeh, CEO, MBA-Exchange.com
 * Michelle Peluso, CEO, Travelocity Corporation
 * Jay Penske, CEO, VSI and Cofounder & Chairman Firefly Mobile
 * Lou Platt, Former Chairman and CEO, Hewlett Packard
 * Sundi Sundaresh, President & CEO, JetStream Communications
 * James L. Vincent, Chairman and CEO of Biogen
 * Larry Weinbach, Chairman, President, and CEO of Unisys Corporation.
 * Steve Woda, Founder & Chairman, buySAFE.
 * Peter Yip, Founder, Chairman, & CEO, China.com

And similarly for "Media"

 * Leslie E. Bider, Chairman and CEO, Warner/Chappell Music
 * Roberto F. Civita, Chairman and CEO, Abril S.A. São Paulo, Brazil
 * Bruce E. Crawford, Chairman, The Omnicom Group
 * Lorenzo diBonaventura, Co-President, Warner Brothers Studios
 * Michael D. Fleisher, CEO, Gartner
 * David P. Glickman, Founder and Chairman, TelePacific Communications
 * Hussam Hamadeh, Founder and Chairman, Vault.com
 * Alain Levy, CEO, EMI Recorded Music, Founder of PolyGram
 * Warren Lieberfarb, CEO and President, Warner Home Video
 * Alfred C. Liggins III, President, CEO, Treasurer and Director, Radio One
 * Harold W. McGraw III, Chairman, President, and CEO, The McGraw-Hill Companies.
 * Peter E. Murphy, EVP and Head of Strategy, The Walt Disney Company
 * Manuel V. Pangilinan, President and CEO, Philippine Telephone Company
 * David Power III, Chairman and Founder, J.D. Power and Associates
 * Sylvia M. Rhone, Chairman and CEO, Elektra Entertainment Group
 * Paul J. Vidich, CEO, Time Warner
 * Alberto Vitale, Former Chairman, President and CEO, Random House
 * Adlai W. Wertman, President and CEO, Chrysalis

And similarly for "Nonprofits"

 * Jaime Alonso Gomez, Dean, EGADE, Tec de Monterrey (Mexico)
 * John H. Anderson, Dean, Mount Aloysius College
 * Ted Aronson, Chairman, CFA Institute
 * David T. Ayres, Chief of staff for attorney general John Ashcroft.
 * Ernesto P. Balladares, Former President, The Government of Panama
 * Jeffrey A. Barks, Associate Dean, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
 * Jay-Michael Baslow, Associate Dean, Harvard Medical School
 * Drusilla D. Blackman, Dean, Columbia University
 * Dr. Boediono, State Minister of Indonesia
 * Frank Bostyn, Dean, University of Antwerp Management School (Belgium)
 * Frank Brown, Dean, INSEAD
 * Terrence Brown, Dean, Stockholm School of Entrepreneurship
 * Richard Casavant, Dean, University of Tennessee
 * Robert Cort, one of the most succesful Hollywood’s movie producer - 52 movies grossing over $2B
 * David R. Decker, Dean, New York Institute of Technology
 * James DePriest, Director and Conductor, Oregon Symphony
 * L Thomas Divilio, Chairman, Memorial Hospital
 * Edward Halperin, Associate Dean, Duke University
 * James Hammond, Dean, Penn State University
 * Yung Han, Dean, Myongji University (Korea)
 * William Hancock, Dean, Cambridge College
 * Laurent Jacque, Academic Dean, Fletcher School of Law & Diplomacy
 * William Kissick, Associate Dean, Dartmouth College
 * William K. Laidlaw, Dean, Case Western Reserve University
 * Beomha Jee, Dean, The King's College
 * Neng Liang, Dean, Peking University
 * Ann D. McLaughlin, Chairman, The Aspen Institute
 * Tamas Meszaros, Dean, Budapest University of Economic Science (Hungary)
 * Serguei Miassoedov, Dean, Moscow Institute of International Relations (MGIMO)
 * Jeffrey C. Miller, Executive Associate Dean, Northwestern University
 * Robert Mittlestaedt, Dean, Arizona State University
 * Sybil Mobley, Dean, Florida A&M University
 * Allen Morton, Dean, Western Connecticut State University
 * Edward Moses, Dean, Rollins College
 * James Murdock, Associate Dean, University of Michigan
 * Daniel F. Muzyka, Dean, University of British Columbia
 * Shaath Nabil, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Palestinian Authority
 * Howard Paul Forman, Chairman, Yale University School of Medicine
 * John Quelch, Dean of the London Business School
 * Block Richard, Chief Rabbi, The Temple Tifereth (Israel)
 * Junehyuong Rhie, Dean, Inha University (Korea)
 * Thomas Rhodes, President of National Review; Founder and Chairman of the American Civil Rights Coalition
 * Shimon Schocken, Dean, Efi Arazi University (Israel)
 * Stanley Shapiro, Dean, Simon Fraser University (Canada)
 * Hee-Joon Song, Dean, Ewha Woman's University (Korea)
 * Steven Steinglass, Dean, Cleveland State University
 * Anthony E. Whyte, Chairman and CEO, American Institute Management Technology
 * Klaus Zumwinkel, Chairman and CEO, Deutsche Post AG

And similarly for "Finance"

 * Ted Aronson, Founder, Chairman and CEO, Aronson+Johnson+Ortiz
 * Zeti Aziz, Governor of the Central Bank of Malaysia
 * Thomas M. Bayer, Executive Chairman, European Bank
 * Alfred R. Berkeley, Vice Chairman NASDAQ Stock Market
 * Mitchell J. Blutt, Executive Partner, J.P. Morgan Partners
 * Dr. Boediono, Governor, Central bank of Indonesia
 * Geoff Boisi, CEO, J.P. Morgan Chase
 * Christopher Browne, Co-Founder, Tweedy, Browne Company
 * Peter A. Burt, CEO, Bank of Scotland
 * Frank V. Cahouet, Former Chairman and CEO, Mellon Bank Corporation
 * Angel Corcóstegui, CEO, Banco Santander Central Hispano
 * Passera Corrado, CEO, Banca Intesa of Italy
 * Edward E. Crutchfield, Chairman and CEO, First Union Corporation
 * Jose L. Cuisia, Governor of the Central Bank of Philippines
 * Suzanne Cutler, EVP, Administrative Services, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
 * Antonio De Sousa Franco, Governor of the Bank of Portugal
 * Kenneth P. DeAngelis, Founding Partner, Austin Ventures
 * Pridiyathorn Devakula, Governor of the Central Bank of Thailand
 * James Dinan, CEO and Founder, York Capital Management
 * Frank B. Fisher, Chairman and CEO, American National Bank
 * Samuel J. Foti, President and COO, MONY Life Insurance
 * Thomas M. Garrott III, Chairman and CEO, National Commerce Bancorporation
 * Leonard I. Green, Founder and Partner, Leonard Green & Partners
 * Bulent Gultekin, Governor of the Central Bank of Turkey
 * James A. Harmon, President and Chairman, Export-Import Bank of the U.S
 * Robert F. Henricksen, Chairman and CEO, Northwest Bank
 * Akinari Horii, Governor, Bank of Japan
 * A. Romeo Horton, Founder, African Development Bank; President Emeritus, the Bank of Liberia;
 * Benny T. Hu, President, China Development Industrial Bank
 * Robert Hurst, Vice Chairman of The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. since May 1999
 * Jonathon Jacobson, Co-Founder, Highfields Capital Management
 * Serck Joo Hong, President and CEO of Chohung Bank of Korea
 * Jeffrey Koo Jr, Chairman and CEO, Chinatrust Commercial Bank and founder of Crimson Capital
 * James T. Larkin, Vice Chairman, American Express
 * Vincent P. Lisanke, President and CEO, American Express Credit Corp
 * Thomas F. Loeb, Chairman and CEO, Mellon Capital Management
 * Robert I. MacDonnell, Founder, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Company
 * Howard S. Marks, Chairman, Oaktree Capital Management
 * Joe McNay, Chairman and Founder, Essex Investment Management
 * Kenneth W. Moelis, Managing Director, Donaldson Lufkin and Jenrette
 * James E. Moltz, Chairman and President, Deutsche Bank
 * Michael J. Moritz, Partner, Sequoia Capital
 * David R. Murray, President and CEO, Vanguard Venture Partners
 * John Neff, Chairman, Wellington Management
 * Robert J. Newhouse, CEO and Chairman, Marsh & Mc Lennan Companies Inc
 * Dan Och, Founder, Och-Ziff Capital Management
 * Farouk al-Okdah, Governor of the Central Bank of Egypt
 * David Pottruck, Co-CEO of the Charles Schwab. Board director of Intel
 * David Pullman, Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Pullman Group
 * Julio A. De Quesada, President and Chairman, Citigroup
 * Charles S. Sanford, Jr., retired chairman and CEO of Bankers Trust Co.
 * Ted Schlein, Sinor Partner, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.
 * Henning Schulte-Noelle, CEO and Chairman, Allianz AG
 * Chulakorn Singhakowin, Chairman and President, Bank of Asia
 * Winthrop H. Smith, Chairman, Merrill Lynch
 * Michael L. Tarnopol, Vice Chairman, Bear, Stearns & Co.
 * Frederick B. Taylor, Vice Chairman and Chief Investment Officer, US Trust
 * Valeri Telegin, Chairman, Bank of Russia
 * Yoshio Terasawa, Chairman, The Tokyo Star Bank
 * Lawrence G. Tint, CEO, Barclays Global Investors
 * Koichi Toyomaru, President and CEO, Nippon Life Insurance (Asia’s largest insurance)
 * Anthony F. Vuoto, President and CEO, First USA Bank
 * John A. Ward, Chairman and CEO, American Express Bank
 * Norman M. Wayne, CEO, CIGNA Reinsurance
 * Arthur F. Weinbach, Chairman and CEO, Automatic Data Processing Inc
 * Lawrence E. Wesneski, Chairman, President and CEO, Hoak Breedlove Wesneski
 * Alfred West Jr, CEO, SEI Investments
 * Allen D. Wheat, Chairman and CEO, Credit Suisse First Boston
 * Richard B. Williams, Chairman and CEO, Dun & Bradstreet Corporation

And similarly for "Real estate"

 * William Fair, CEO, American Skiing Company
 * Brad Handler, Chairman and CEO, Exclusive Resorts LLC
 * Laurence E. Hirsch, Chairman and CEO, Centex Corporation (largest home builder in the USA)
 * William L. Mack (agent), President and CEO. Mack Organization
 * Tadashi Nomura, President and CEO, Nomura Estate Co Ltd
 * Nelson W. Potter, CEO, Fleetwood Enterprises,
 * Scott A. Wolstein, CEO and a Director, Developers Diversified Realty Corporation
 * Mortimer B. Zuckerman, Founder and Chairman, Boston Properties

And similarly for "Consulting"

 * Melvyn E. Bergstein, Chairman and CEO, DiamondCluster International
 * Thomas Copland, Co-CEO, Monitor Group
 * Michael J. Donahue, CEO and COO, KPMG Consulting
 * James W. Down, Vice Chairman, Mercer Management Consulting
 * Barry W. Huff, Chairman, Deloitte and Touche
 * Bruce A. Gay, Founder, CEO, and President Monticello Consulting Group
 * Philip A. Laskawy, Chairman and CEO, Ernst & Young LLP
 * Shaun F. O’Malley, Chairman and CEO Emeritus, PricewaterhouseCoupers, LLP
 * Charles Rutstein, President, Forrester Research
 * Edward L. Wax, Chairman, Saatchi and Saatchi
 * Larry Weinbach, Chairman and CEO Emeritus of Andersen Worldwide

Motto?
I snipped
 * motto = To impact the world through development of leaders and knowledge dissemination

because although this phrase does appear on Wharton's website, e.g. at http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/whartonfacts/leadership/, it is not described as a motto.

The dictionary defines "motto" as "A brief statement used to express a principle, goal, or ideal." Usually the "motto" appears on the University's coat of arms. However, Wharton's coat of arms bears no motto. Searches on Wharton's website for motto return no relevant hits.

I don't believe Wharton has a motto. Dpbsmith (talk) 03:09, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

List of Prominent Wharton Alumni
A user under the Nick of Dpbsmithhas removed a list of renown alumni from the Wharton School. He has unilateraly decided to erase some of the most prominet leader formed at Wharton but apparently do not "live near him/her".

Given the importance of the list erased I would urge a curator to 1. restore the old list and 2. eventually to create a MBA listing separately from that of the wharton school

The efforts put up by the Wharton School in establishing a sound international network of leaders is sometimes clouded by action of people who have little knowlege.... Than you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.74.37 (talk • contribs)


 * The alumni moved off the article page were taken down because their alumni status was not cited. As User:Dpbsmith stated, setting aside any questions of individual notability, their status as alumni should be referenced in some reputable source before being put on the main page.  Verifiability is a cornerstone of the entire Wikipedia project. JDoorj a m     Talk 18:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * 85.18.74.37, You or anyone else can put any of these names back, but before you put a name back you need to find a verifiable source and cite it when you put the name back. In the case of CEOs of prominent corporations, in many cases the corporate website will have a page with executive bios on it. If the bio mentions they attended Wharton, that would be a perfectly good source. The source needs to be "reputable," and it needs to say two things: a) it needs to confirm that the person holds the position mentioned, and b) it needs to confirm that the person attended Wharton.


 * Yes, it's work, but the verifiability policy is clear that "The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain."


 * If you got this entire list from somewhere on the Web, such as the Wharton website, then including a link to that web page would be very appropriate. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:27, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Notable Alumni
The term "Alumni" generally refers to graduates of a school/university. Warren Buffett did not graduate from Wharton, he attended for a year or two. He should not be included in the list of "Alumni"


 * No, the term is not restricted to graduates: the American Heritage Dictionary says alumnus means "A male graduate or former student of a school, college, or university" (and "alumna" means "A woman graduate or former student of a school, college, or university.") Dpbsmith (talk) 02:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I said "generally refers to"; i.e., the common accepted usage implies people who graduated from a school. It is silly to list someone who attended the school for a year or two, realized they did not like it there, and transferred at their own choosing to another school (where they did graduate from) and call them an alumnus.  Wharton itself has never claimed Buffett as an alum...come on, someone else speak up, this is ridiculous!
 * Ok your comment is ridiculous. Regardless if he graduated or not, he still attennded Wharton as a matriculated student. Also why does it matter if Wharton claims him or not, thats Whartons issue. Look at Bill Gates, Gates never greduated from Harvard, yet he is still considered to be be at least associated with them. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:42, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * No, 12.22.82.7, your statement that it "generally refers to" graduates is inaccurate. To me it has always meant "attendance," but before I said anything, I took the trouble to double-check with a dictionary. Dpbsmith (talk) 11:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * You said: "Wharton itself has never claimed Buffett as an alum...come on, someone else speak up, this is ridiculous!" This is not true, Warren Buffett is listed in WAVE - Wharton Alumni Database. Although the story of Buffett attendance of the Wharton is not without controversy, he is a Wharton alum. Buffet's father, then a congressman from Nebraska, insisted that his son should attend Wharton School. Buffet went to Wharton undergrad for three years but then dropped out, moved back to Nebraska and got married. For years after this incident, his father barely talked to him.

"produces more research"
This statement has had a fact tag on it for a while. Recently an apparent reference was added:


 * According to U.S. News & World Report, Wharton produces more research than any other business school.

However, the reference is not to U. S. News but to Wharton's own website, and while it confirms that Wharton has many research centers, it does not say that "Wharton produces more research than any other business school." So, I'm removing this statement until a verifiable citation can be provided. Dpbsmith (talk) 11:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Reverting by and
This has to stop. Please discuss your differences on the talk page instead of revert warring. Isopropyl 05:34, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Please carefully review Talk:Ivy League business schools for a detailed account of what User:GO WHARTON is doing. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Thanks. MBAguy 05:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Propaganda from User:GO WHARTON on Ivy League business schools
User:GO WHARTON has been created (see: ) to create and promote content about the concept of Ivy League business schools. It appears likely that he is a sockpuppet of the otherwise well-behaved User:JDMBAHopeful, who contributed regularly (prior to the create of User:GO WHARTON, that is) to the Yale School of Management article. The question for the editors of THIS page is: should we keep his links which he littered throughout this article, or should they be condensed to the category link I left, or deleted altogether? Please let me know what you think. Thanks! MBAguy 08:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Follow up - an administrator warned me on my talk page that it is inappropriate for me to speculate about other users. I thought User:GO WHARTON is a Dartmouth Amos Tuck School of Business Administration, Columbia Business School, Yale School of Management, or Cornell Johnson School student. I will try to not speculate about users in the future. Dc10 17:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Brett Plant?
As far as I can tell, Brett Plant, and the Plant Organization don't actually exist. If anyone can substantiate either of these, please cite a source. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Brett Plant is not listed in Wharton Alumni Directory.

List of Alumni
Hello, I happen to have this article on my watchlist because I "dab-ed" a link on it a while ago, so I have no primary interest here, but thought that I would throw out my 2-cents, in case someone who feels more ownership over this article wants some input. When I look at this article, the list of alumni really stands out, perhaps more so than you might want. The list of alumni appears to me to be about 4 times longer than the article itself. Many of the names are not linked; it seems like more than half of the links are "redlinks"; and several of the links point to either the wrong article or to disambiguation pages. Surely Wharton is more important for its own contributions than all these alumni are (in this context). Is this really how you want this article to look? I would suggest that you might want to do a large clean up of all of this, or if you feel that the list is important, split it into a new article called something like "List of Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania Alumni" and then link to it using the "main article" template. Respectfully --Brian G 17:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The quoted source of does not agree with the numbers (81000 vs 75000 for example) or with the list of names shown (example Deutsch, Mack, Rutstein) --Brian G (Talk) 23:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The list of "redlinks" may be lengthy but care should be taken in any clean-up, so as not to delete important names. Suggestions? Delasource 17:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge from Wharton-SMU Research Center
An IP editor slapped a merge tag on the Wharton-SMU Research Center article last October, but didn't put one here or offer up any comments on why they should be merged. No opinion. Pairadox 22:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I go to Wharton (2nd year MBA), and even went to Singapore on a Wharton trip. I've have never heard of the Wharton-SMU Research Center before this. They are very different things, and the topics should not be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.211.147.31 (talk) 23:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Rankings
Although the rankings look attractive in tabular form, are they really recent? Is the data really appropriate for an encyclopedic entry? The word "recent" can be taken in many different ways. In any case, how about presenting the rankings just as one would normally do with stocks? The latest three years of rankings, a running three-year average ranking and the change from last year's ranking. I think the analogy with stocks should ring true to most people who visit this institution's page.

I imagine people that actually do care to look at these rankings are interested (a) in attending the school or (b) seeing how their old school is doing. Those two reasons likely account for most of the eyeballs on the section! Potential applicants likely care about their future investment of time and money. I think that they will appreciate the proposed format. Are eight-year old rankings even important to anyone? Alumni may well want to see how their school stacked up the year that they graduated. So, too, might their potential employers. What I am proposing is not necessarily an either/or matter. Keep the table,... but let's discuss possible improvements.

For sure, I see self-interest being attached in so many different ways to these rankings. Are countries ranked? No. Are hamburger chains ranked? No. MBA programmes certainly make much of their rankings in their self-promotion efforts. These schools are self-interested, too. Wikipedia always links to an institution's page, doesn't it? Advertising belongs there. Is Wikipedia the place for promoting institutions? That's a clear "No".

The ranking info is normally all true, verifiable and may well have been uploaded with the best of intentions. All the same, lots of other editors with agendas want to manipulate Wikipedia pages. How objective is an editor who is full of school pride? How bitter & envious are the students from other closely-but-lower ranked schools? Doesn't this ring true, too? Present company is excepted, of course!!

So, let's talk about reorganising the rankings sections on MBA pages (Incidentally, I have added this post elsewhere, as well). Maybe the convention should be for schools to put all rankings on a separate rankings page, and then link to it. Perhaps, the rankings should have separate sections for comprehensive apples-vs-apples rankings versus the specialised, more-narrowly-focused ones. They are proliferating these days! Maybe this information should not even be on any Wikipedia page. Anyhow, it seems to me that future, current and former students all benefit as their school's fortunes rise and vice versa. Conflict of interest are three nasty words that I see all over these MBA pages of ours. Let's talk about improving what we have (or are we already at the peak?). Let's start a precedent. COYW 23:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Today user 199.94.1.161 added a vandalic "amateur" to the first paragraph, with the edit summary "clarified nature of student body served". The first paragraph was then:

Since the 1990s, the popular press has repeatedly ranked Wharton as one of the top institutions for amateur business education in the world.

I removed "amateur", but since this user already has a warning for vandalism on his talk page let's watch closely. UltraEdit (talk) 03:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I removed the section on the "D-bag factor" by 128.143.224.67, which was for some reason taken down and then re-inserted by Milksfavoritecookie.Sccampion (talk) 23:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Alumni network
This list is way out of proportion to the rest of the article and most of the listings are redlinks. I can see no discussion on this talk page that indicates what criteria is being used to confer "notability." A separate article, List of Wharton School alumni, already exists. Ultimately, my question is Why is this massive, largely uncited, and redundant list here? Pairadox (talk) 01:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's about time someone posed that question. The Tuck article on the main page right now only has one short paragraph for the alumni section. Only the most notable names should be listed here.- DMCer ™  08:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I've just cleared it out and left a link to the list, per WP:SUMMARY. Let's see what happens. Pairadox (talk) 01:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Good call.— DMCer ™  02:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Trump at Wharton
Donald trump did not graduate with a degree in Real Estate he and daughter Ivanka gradutated from the Wharton School of Finance, Donald has made his Billion in Real Estate but his degree is in Finance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.170.54.169 (talk) 21:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Lack of analysis and balance
This reads like an advertising prospectus, with a list of graduates attached. It should give an informative and critical description of the history and current programmes of the school. There is a lot of work to be done here.

For example, is there any relevance to Wharton in Engwall's remark that for the many philanthropists who funded early business schools "their intention was primarily to raise the status of business men" rather than to raise the quality of management. Or what about Chris Grey's remark that it is not just coincidence that Frederick Taylor worked for Bethlehem Steel? Deipnosophista (talk) 20:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Information about the Wharton Leadership Conference
It would be good to have some information about the leadership conference, which is apparently of high quality and includes speakers such as Jim Collins, Helen Greiner, Mike Useem, David Breashears and Roberto Canessa. Natebailey (talk) 08:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup needed
Claims are made in the article with citations to the Wharton website, but those facts do not appear on the referenced pages. This article needs to be cleaned up and the prose toned down. This is an encyclopedia, not a recruiting piece. Racepacket (talk) 12:35, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * So fix it. Esrever (klaT) 13:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)