Talk:Where Lovers Mourn

Fair use rationale for Image:Draconian where lovers mourn.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Genre categorizing
If anybody is curious about the genre, please read this entry first. Genre bickering is a completely uninteresting endeavor, and wastes too much time. There should be more effort focused on improving this article than what the genre of the freaking album is. People with so much passion to slap [potentially their own] labels onto other people's music are totally missing the point. Anyways, I'll get right to the point of my statement, since edit summaries and invisible messages *cough* are unsiutable mediums to illustrate these points, while the relevant talk pages are.

While determining genres of music albums (as well as in more important parts of this encyclopedia and life in general), all parties involved should be cooperative with one another. That does not involve putting down in the genre field what one thinks the album's genre is out of the blue.

Now I will explain the faultiness of the sources presented. The For the Greater Good blog, I believe, falls under the following from WP:IRS: "Blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some news outlets host interactive columns they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professional journalists or are professionals in the field on which they write and the blog is subject to the news outlet's full editorial control. Posts left by readers may never be used as sources; see WP:NEWSBLOG.

Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP.

From this perspective, does For the Greater Good blog qualify as a reliable source on Wikipedia? Is the author a professional journalist or a professional in their field? Is their work in the relevant field previously published by third parties? Here is the area to make the case for it.

Also, there is sputnikmusic. This source does have some backing to be used on Wikipedia. However, the only sources that can be used from sputnikmusic are reviews done by staff and emeritus, and not by users. For more information, see WikiProject Albums/Review sites.

One last thing, I want to touch on invisible text. The reason why invisible text exists is to give other editors advice on how to go about editing the respective page. Invisible text does not exist to be used for pushing one's own point of view. The recent edit exchanges have treaded on the principle that Wikipedia should not be disrupted to prove a point, especially such a frivolous one. I don't want to waste anymore of my time reverting flippant genre edits. Feel free to add any comments, questions, or concerns here. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 08:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)