Talk:Whiplash (2014 film)

Final sentence
'...which Chazelle credits from making the shoot "nightmarish."

Should this be something like, 'which, in Chazelle's view, kept the shoot from being "nightmarish." ?

Regards to all, Notreallydavid (talk) 21:53, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Slate Article gets too much ink
When a film wins near-universal acclaim, it only follows that dissenting opinions should represent a smaller and more marginalised segment of the viewership. The attention paid in this article as it stands to the Slate criticism is overdone IMO; also the substantive critique quoted has little to do with the merits of the film; instead it reads more like a misguided diatribe against the film’s portrayal of correct pedagogy. Paragraph should be trimmed, demoted from entire section to tag sentence on “Reception.” — Muckapedia (talk) 1 e fév. 2015 0h27 (−4h)


 * I agree. Done. Popcornduff (talk) 11:32, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

film about music?
thought it was about sport.

86.169.93.166 (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

uncited claim
On stage at the jazz festival, Fletcher reveals that he knew Andrew testified against him, and the concert is his revenge.

One of the points about this film is that we are left very much in the dark as to Fletcher's true motives. I'm not sure it is clear that the concert is "revenge" or yet another opportunity to give Andrew a chance to prove himself. If it were truly revenge, why even allow Andrew to keep playing music that Fletcher is certain he knows well? Why not kick him off the stage? Instead, he says one of those very passive-aggressive motivational "I guess you never had it in you" statements.

If Fletcher is really upset about losing his job, to the point of taking revenge, then it is inconsistent that he would suddenly get happy about his prodigy finally reaching his level of excellence.

I think the and the concert is his revenge statement is speculative, and should not be a part of the plot description. 76.29.30.203 (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. We should let the reader draw their own conclusions about his motive, as the viewer does. I've removed it. Popcornduff (talk) 20:52, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * good lord it was a fantastic film i felt every thought and motion that was shown in the film never moved until it finished 92.3.119.85 (talk) 22:38, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Abusive
Why do we need to comment about his motives as they were of abuse or whatever? Please avoid these, we can write what he did in the plot without such interpretation. User talk:कालमैत्री, read here for more. Word0151 (talk) 02:59, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * For context:
 * This user changed mentions of "abusive" to much lesser terms, such as "harsh", when describing Fletcher's behaviour.
 * When I reverted this, they put them back, leaving an edit summary saying "Abusive is not correct, you are weak." and "All this stems from modern perspective through psychology made for the weak." (No apology for randomly calling me 'weak' either.)
 * In discussion on this user's talk page, they stated "That he slaps a students should be written in the plot, but if one considers it abusive or evil should be left to reader. Why should we favour that audience which thinks his actions were maltreatment and not favour those who think it as good.", and also "Was the objective of the film to show how abusive he is? This is what you hope for. As a normal humans we must NOW consider everything contrary to heart as assault, abuse; as it will make it easy to support the basic instinct of FLIGHT over situations. What i wanted was the articles be not filled with personal opinions of stupid masses, and as such a ambiguous case it is, write his actions just as they are. Let the readers interpret it then based on their level of intellect and mediocrity being possessed. "
 * Not sure what Word0151 has against modern psychology, but I think we can ignore that as an argument for changing the wording from "abusive". I strongly support keeping the wording as "abusive", rather than creating ambiguity in a situation that's very clear-cut. GraziePrego (talk) 04:00, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * you can use 'ruthless. Word0151 (talk) 04:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Physically assaulting students in his care over minor errors is not "ruthless". GraziePrego (talk) 04:13, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Is this more severe or what? Word0151 (talk) 04:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's more severe. It's abusive. GraziePrego (talk) 04:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "Abusive" has also been used as the description of Fletcher in the lead of this article since February of 2015. GraziePrego (talk) 04:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Humans believed earth was the centre of everything for 100s of years Word0151 (talk) 04:07, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Third opinion

 * "Abusive" seems to be the more accurate word, and seems to have been a non-controversial inclusion. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 20:04, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your opinion. :) GraziePrego (talk) 00:07, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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