Talk:Whistler, British Columbia/Archive 1

Needs WAY more content
A bit stunned to see that this jumps from the founding of the Garibaldi Lift Company straight to an Olympics 2010 pitch, with nothing in between; please ref other BC municipalities to see what else an article should include, and always remember that this is not a platform for promotional materials for local companies (in fact due to WP:COI no one from the RMOW or the WRA should take part in editing it!!). There's a good thirty years of local history to account for in there, plust public facilities, the development issues that have faced the palce and certain subdividions, notably landmarks such as the Trollhouse, the destruction of the squats and heritage structures because of "construction frenzy", and more; I learned French in Whistler, for example, because of the high proportion of Quebeckers, franco-Ontarians and European French in town during the '80s. Also, "resort municipality" should be defined, as this is the only such BC municipality and the terms of what that mean should be in here (including the old Sunday drinking vs dry Sundays everywhere else, which was an RMOW exclusive until Expo '86).Skookum1 01:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

thanks wikipedia
Hi, it is nice to see that although Whistler has been faced with some difficultires in recent past. Whistler has been expereincing some up swings such as a full article in Wikipedia. Plus a new web site called www.whistler2020.ca that looks at Whistler's sustainability journey. Whistler needs our help - I hope you will in some way join Whistler's sustainability journey.
 * this is NOT a full article; anything but (see below). I guess it's flattering, in an abstract regular-Wikipedian kind of way, that you think having an article is an "upswing" after all your "difficulties".  I'm sure about 150 communities in BC would trade their difficulties for yours, however...."sustainability journey"...do people really talk like that?Skookum1 01:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Olympics politics and Hwy 99 politics
Both these topics are overbuilt on this page, and properly belong in their own articles (2010 Olympics and British Columbia provincial highway 99); I've added citation templates to some of the extraneous stuff, which will need citing wherever it goes; but it shouldn't go here. What's Eagleridge Bluff got to do with Whistler? What's the Vancouver referendum on the Olympics, and how it "humiliated" VANOC - what's that got to do with Whistler? This article from its start has been about Whistler-as-Olympics, even when it was a stub - in fact, somebody at one point tried to delete stuff about the town entirely and revert to an Olympics-only orientation. Talk about sustainability - you might try it with information and history sometime, too. I'll be back to see if these citations are filled out by the people who wrote those bits, and to see if they've been moved, or made somehow relevant to Whistler (which they're not, so that will be hard to do); discussing deletions/moves of this information here before doing it, so this is a heads-up to anyone monitoring this page that it currently doesn't meet Wiki content guidelines. There's this big gap, for one thing, between 1968 and the announcement of the 2010 Games. Like, huh? Nothing happened in all those years? There's no public facilities to list, a discussion of economics, housing and social issues, environment, climate? Just the Olympics??Skookum1 22:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Whistler Blackcomb link
I deleted the link to whistlerblackcomb.ca because it appears to be a commercial marketing link. Its inclusion can only be intended to drive wikipedia traffic to that site rather than as a source of information. If there is information on the site that can be added to the article, that is the way to go rather than take users to the commercial site. I referred to WP:LINKSPAM in deleting the link. The link was restored without comment. This link seems to me to be contrary to #3 and 4 at External_links. Before deleting the link again, I invite discussion here. -- KenWalker | Talk 18:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm... seems we both intended to remove two specific external links ("whistlerclassifieds" and "whistlerbikeguide"), but my edit inadvertently restored a third that you took issue with. Sorry... although, actually, I think a good argument could be made for retaining whistlerblackcomb.com as the ski facilities are the primary reason for Whistler's international notability. (The link in question is actually ".com", not ".ca" as mentioned above - ".ca" wouldn't qualify at all.) Thoughts? --Ckatz chat spy  18:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW, I have restored the link in the Whistler-Blackcomb article, as per the external links guideline:"'Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if any.'"--Ckatz chat spy  18:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking at it further, it makes sense to me the way we have nded up here.-- KenWalker | Talk 02:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Photo
This is an article about one of the premier ski destinations in the world and the best we can do is post a photo of what the street signs look like? No one cares what Whistler street signs look like. They care about the Village, the peaks, the forest, and the fun, and those should be displayed here. -Jackmont 75.153.95.43 (talk) 02:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

List of neighbourhoods in Whistler, British Columbia
I started this right now because of the reference Whistler Creekside turning up in so many of the Olympics articles; it's by no means complete, just a starter and maybe might have been better titled "neighbourhoods and locations" or just "locations" as I've included Mons and the old Rainbow resort and a few other non-neighbouhood entries...Skookum1 (talk) 02:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Whistler Village redirect and WRA article needed
The Whistler Village link should not be a redirect to this article, it should be an article on the village development, as it has a fairly elaborate development history and particulars and is a different subject from the municpality as such; another needed article would be the Whistler Resort Association (WRA); presumably the Whistler Convention Centre, if that's what it's still called, could be part of both articles, but as with some of the hotels e.g. the Chateau Whistler, it may one day warrant its own article, given its history.....Skookum1 (talk) 02:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * See my entry at WRA, which maybe could use some tweaking or a better definition.Skookum1 (talk) 02:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

TV
Hi, I wanted to edit that these two TV stations are no longer available CKVU-TV (CJWM-TV channel 21) and CHEK-TV (CHWM-TV-1 channel 18).but could not figure out the editing process, perhaps someone could do that for us, Thank you. Superskier1 (talk) 03:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

hotel articles needed
I'm starting work on improving and expanding coverage of Canadian/BC hotels, current and historical. Any thing that's four or five star, or historical or architectural interest or landmarks, can be included. The Chateau and the Delta and the Pan Pacifics and Hilton and even the Boot (even though it's gone) qualify; finding adequate third-party citations may be problematic in cases like the Boot and other old ones like the Whistler Inn (? name now? - "JB's"), though articles in the Whistler Question and the Pique etc do serve as such; won't be as hard for five-stars and big landmarks, where press is probably available. Rainbow Lodge definitely could be its own article rather than a section here for sure, though maybe the park article, if it exists, could be where that title redirects; the Pemberton Hotel definitely qualifies because of its history, also. I'm preoccupied, but hoping a Whistlerite might take an interest in at least the five/four stars and the Boot....also Seppo's falls into the "hostels" category and would be nice to see an article on it, not sure what its proper title might be but that redlink would do for a start, and on Seppo Makinen himself of course, as a notable historic personage. If I had pictures of the Jordan Lodge, now gone, and others like it, they were notable though again citations will be hard to find.Skookum1 (talk) 04:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Rotar? - clutter and redundancies
These sections are cluttered and often redundant, and include addresses, which is not acceptable; Wikipedia is not a directory. Also "rotar" is not a word. The whole transportation section needs cleaning up, but the jumble of overlapping and overdone info here needs a major sweeping.Skookum1 (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * 5.2 Air: Rotar & Plane
 * 5.3 Air: Rotar
 * 5.4 Whistler Aerodrome
 * 5.5 Sea Planes
 * 5.6 Pemberton Regional Airport
 * 5.7 Fixed Wing & Rotar
 * 6 Directions

Airports
Vancouver International Airport - I removed all the travel information. It was not encyclopaedic and better suited for Wikitravel. Nobody reading an encyclopaedia is going to expact info on getting a vehicle with chains or that it is cheaper to fly to Seattle.

Pemberton Regional Airport - All the bold text is against the WP:MOS. Pemberton was already linked earlier and there is no need to link Whistler as that doesn't work.

Whistler (Municipal) Heliport - There are no scheduled flights provided by Helijet (Helijet and scheduled services) so there is no need for them to be there.

Whistler/Green Lake Water Aerodrome - The stuff about what is and is not official isn't sourced. Listing it as an aerodrome or airport without have the water in there is confusing. The name used on Wikipedia is sourced so that should be used. Also Green Lake was a disambiguation page.

I also removed some duplicate links to the same place in the same sentence and the coordinates are not necessary especially as they are not linked. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 02:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

General tidy
Section headers should not always have capitals for every word, bid and bear are not proper nouns. Also spell out & as and. I found quite a few other words with capitals that were not required.

ICAO links to International Civil Aviation Organization but it should be to International Civil Aviation Organization airport code. FAA not used in Canada. YPS links to a disambiguation. The airport codes don't need linking as the airports are already are linked. Numbers less than ten are always spelt out in full. Don't need two links to Pemberton Regional Airport in the same paragraph, nor the bit about no control tower. Most don't have one and it isn't encyclopaedic. It especially should not be in bold.

Any charter service will fly to the heliport and there is no need to mention those two by name.

Don't need to link Resort Municipality of Whistler as it just redirects back here. Which of the two Victoria Harbour heliports is being mentioned? As both floatplane and seaplane are linked along with the words water aerodrome there is no need for the bold and unencyclopaedic mention of seaplanes only.

If the TV is closed then don't need a mention. Nor does that section need bullet points. Words should be spelt in full not hr.

Dates should be day-month-year as per the note at the top of he page. Added the when template because it says "recently" and "last fall" which need dating. Many instances of Whistler being linked which just bolds the name. Removed items from see also that were already in the article. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 01:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Climate/flora section was too junky and erratic to not take out
I removed this section as too messed up to rescue. Ungrammatical writing, endless needless capitalization, messy citations, a claim about a hybrid species done up in bold yadayadayada... In the edit previous to this one I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whistler,_British_Columbia&diff=next&oldid=595823927 took out complete bunk about Whistler having pockets of the Sonoran Desert (WTF??). PemGateway, please learn more about MOS and about how to do citations before making any more large additions.Skookum1 (talk) 04:11, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

WP:NPA advice to User:PemGateway re edit comments
Get a grip buddy, I'm not the only one to point out to you that your additions are sloppy and erratic. Claiming I have an "irrational bias" against "Sonoran Plants" in Whistler is hysterically comical, you're wading into waters deeper than you know....next you'll be claiming that Whistler is an extension of the Amazon jungle, too. But, essentially, your targeting of me in your whiny edit comments is a violation of WP:NPA and you wanting to shoot your mouth off is not acceptable behaviour; believe me I know all about it; your attack on me at the Osoyoos talkpage has been reported to the adminship and geezus man even in your attacks you can't format anything properly. Get a grip, Wikipedia is not your playpen nor somewhere to be hurling mud around like you are doing. Stop expecting others to put up with your messes and erraticness and wild claims and hostile allegations; you regularly make a mess of articles then get hot under the collar when others intervene to fix or revert what you have done, and start slinging accusations and taunts. Not acceptable.Skookum1 (talk) 13:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)