Talk:White City, Tel Aviv

"First Jewish city since biblical times"
Is this true? For example the "settlement" of Khaybar (from the 7th centry) could be considered an all Jewish city. I'm sure as well that certain villages or Shtetls in Eastern Europe before WWII may have had city status and were nearly all Jewish in population. Perhaps this is just the only all Jewish city that was not destroyed by 1948? (132.77.4.129 (talk) 14:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC))


 * the first jewish city in history is Nablus פארוק (talk) 17:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Images
The Hebrew Wikipedia uses this image for the lede: File:Dizengoff Square.jpg, maybe it would be a good choice for this page too. It shows the urban quality of the city rather than any single building (which one to choose?). Some other images that I think maybe should be included as the article expands are : one of Independence Hall (Israel) either File:Israel ind mus.JPG or File:Israel -Independence May 14, 1948.jpg, and this one of the Haaretz print shop : File:Beit dfus haaretz.jpg, which was designed by an architect who bridged eclecticism and modernism in Tel Aviv. DVD 19:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

PS: I'm on my way to the library today to expand this article, which I hope to get to WP:GA or more. DVD 19:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

PPS: Looking closer at the Dizengoff Square photo, its licensing doesn't seem that secure :( DVD 20:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Map
Can anyone make a map like this ? One that shows the zones mentioned by UNESCO. I'll include information about them when I expand the article in a little while but a map would be helpful. Maybe we can use the Hebrew one just with the legend in English ie. A אזור = Zone A etc. DVD 20:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Created File:Tel Aviv White City WHS.svg based on OpenStreetMap and the original UNESCO document. Is not great, but is SVG so can be improved. --Elekhh (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * there are planning to expand the area of the WHIT CITY to the north of tel aviv and bring more homes to preserve. פארוק (talk) 06:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Some Confusing Statements in the Article
Thank you all for an interesting and informative article! A few sections were a bit confusing, however. For instance, this paragraph segment (below) is awkward; as if different authors are arguing with each other:


 * The Bauhaus principles, with their emphasis on functionality and inexpensive building materials, were perceived as ideal in Tel Aviv. The architects fleeing Europe brought not only Bauhaus ideas; the architectural ideas of Le Corbusier were also mixed in. Furthermore, Erich Mendelsohn was not formally associated with the Bauhaus, though he had several projects in Israel in the 1930s as did Carl Rubin, an architect from Mendelsohn's office.[6] In the 1930s in Tel Aviv, many architectural ideas were converging and Tel Aviv was the ideal place for them to be tested.

It seems as if someone is trying to dispute or challenge the framing premise that the White City is a reflection of Bauhaus style. I am not expert enough to adjudicate questions of influence like this, but the text ought not debate itself like this. Either it is primarily Bauhaus modernism, or it is eclectic modernism with many equal influences, or whatever. But it should be one cohesive explanation, not a bunch of contradictory qualifications.

Also there is this under "Adaptation to local climate.":


 * Slanted roofs were replaced with flat ones, providing a common area where residents could socialize in the cool of the evening.[14]

Flat roofs are certainly traditional vernacular in the region due to climate, but they are also a central element of modernist architecture regardless of climate. So what is being "replaced?" Traditional European architecture?

Finally, there is this in he same section:


 * Most of the buildings were of concrete,[15] reinforced concrete was often applied from 1912 on,[6] and in the summer were unbearably hot despite their innovative design features.

The implication is that the use of concrete and/or reinforced concrete has made the buildings hotter than they would have been if built from more traditional materials of the locality. Is that true? If it is, it should be stated clearly, not in this backhanded manner. If it isn't - either because the interior is no warmer than buildings in the area made of other materials or because excess interior warmth is the result of some other design element than the concrete - than it should be modified accordingly.

Thank you all for an overall fine and enlightening article.TheCormac (talk) 16:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

the Bauhaus museum
there is small museum of Bauhaus near the old city hall of tel aviv. פארוק (talk) 20:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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